• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      1 hour ago

      Everything spies on you now LOL.

      If you’re reading this on your phone, guess what? Your phone is spying on you. Turn off your phone and watch some TV. Your TV is spying on you.

    • Noobnarski@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      They are doing something though, it’s called long term planning.

      It annoys me so much that the western world has stopped doing it and is just thinking short term.

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    3 hours ago

    An SUV for that price… In sure Chinese sweatshop factory workers are paid fairly and work in safe conditions and get regular breaks, vacations, aock leave, etc… Right?

    Because if not, you’d be buying products from slavery yet somehow I don’t see that argument very much

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      2 hours ago

      Not denying sweatshops over there, but it’s highly likely these are mostly built by robots in empty buildings.

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      6 hours ago

      Thankfully in the US we won’t get the choice because they’re not allowed to sell here to protect our domestic producers from competition so we can just give them more money the next time they need to be bailed out.

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        They pretty much do the same in China. Tesla I believe is or was the only foreign manufacturer allowed to own their Chinese business. Everyone else had to set up a Chinese subsidiary majority owned by a Chinese automaker.

        Nothing stopping Xiaomi from doing the same with Ford or GM in the US as far as I know?

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      30 minutes ago

      But I like being able to see over everyone else

      • everyone

      At this point I’m planning to see under everyone else.

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      Xiaomi first car is an amazing sport sedan: SU7. Followed by my personal favorite, the YU7. Actually the SU7 has been the best selling car in China for a few months.

      The Skynomad, this new SUV, strangely is not marketed as Xiaomi but purely as Skynomad. They have separate stores, whereas the SU7 and YU7 are in the normal Xiaomi stores, between the phones fridges and laptops. Definitely a different target audience so that could be the strategy. It doesn’t have a Xiaomi badge either.

      The same goes for Huawei, who have a whole suit of different models and types of cars. The most insane one, from innovation perspective, is the Maestro, a competitor for Rolls-Royce.

    • KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca
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      4 hours ago

      Most of these these new SUVs aren’t huge SUVs of the 90s - like Ford Explorer. They’re basically the new station wagon but barely larger than a sedan like a Camry.

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      9 hours ago

      I think people who have never driven one or feel uncomfortable getting one and gets one because they feel they’re getting more for their money shouldn’t be driving them at all.

      I think people who want one should rent one that way they have practice and they have to be careful with the vehicle because it’s on loan but the one thing I noticed when just about everyone switched to mini-suv’s and full sized ones and trucks, that there’s more people who have never driven one in their life and it’s noticeable.

      I just don’t want to be hit by someone who has no idea how to manage driving one because of their size and depth perception being thrown off other than that who gives a fuck what people drive. If someone wants to drop money on something stupidly oversized and uses a fuckload of gas, let em.

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      10 hours ago

      But without SUVs, people would be embarrassed driving minivans and without huge trucks, there would be nothing to compensate for small penises.

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    15 hours ago

    And why is it so relatively cheap? Where did they cut corners? Are they spying on you like the cheap Chinese TVs? It can’t be just because it’s government subsidized.

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      11 hours ago

      I would prefer no spying. But with the US being a fascist surveillance state run by greedy billionaires, American cars are no better. Either pick one from a functioning liberal country or focus on the tech. China is clearly ahead on tech.

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      11 hours ago

      The Chinese government is subsidizing them to gain market share just like American tech companies do with VC funding.

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        10 hours ago

        One way the Chinese government is “subsidizing” their cars is by suppressing the living standards of its people.

        That and their industry doesn’t appear to be as bloated and shareholder-driven.

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          8 hours ago

          suppressing the living standards of its people.

          You mean letting billionaires avoid tax, adding tariffs to everything, and driving up the price of gas?

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          There are no shareholders because you’d have to be a fool to compete with the Chinese government as an investor. Returns are perpetually suppressed.

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            8 hours ago

            JFC Lemmy… BYD is a public company and was originally funded by Warren Buffet. He made almost 9 billion.

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      11 hours ago

      The motive isn’t to extract as much capital out of the customers as possible.

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      13 hours ago

      They are spying yes,all the others are too which doesnt make it ok but that is why it is subsidised by the state.

      They cut corners on comfort and noise levels from my experience of similar brands

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    I always love seeing the headlines that say “west should fear when other countries beat them at their own game”. It’s the same stupid rhetoric that Trump keeps barking about AI and how “we have to beat China”.

    Mate, you all fucking caused everything to happen. Where do you see anything that says “Made in USA” anymore? Not that that would mean much today anyway given the shit quality the US has, but seriously.

    They’re just making up hysteria based on nothing. Nobody wants to fucking go to an office 5 days a week just to do remote meetings. Nobody wants to be dependent on cars for getting around.

    Nobody wants all this forced AI shit in our everyday lives. Just get over it. The endless conquest of world domination held by a handful of influencers is over. The world must change and to start, it must end all of this greedy ass capitalism which only seeks to cause misfortune for the rest of us.

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      22 hours ago

      Ross Perot warned everyone. They laughed at his ears.

      Yes there were warnings before but his was probably the last chance we had.