• mkwt@lemmy.world
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    If you, as a consumer, directly paid one of the illegal tariffs, you can get a refund via the shipper who acted as an agent for you.

    For example, here’s the form if you shipped something over the border using UPS and paid an illegal tariff to get it released from customs.

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        Depends probably on the nature of what “forwarded the costs” means.

        If the business collected the costs from you and then forwarded them to CBP while acting as your agent, then you can demand a refund from them or sue them.

        If you agreed to purchase goods for one price while also agreeing to pay a separate “tariff reimbursement fee” in exchange for purchasing the goods, you’re probably shit out of luck.

        Various shades in between might be arguable or litigatable one way or another.

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      Does this mean UPS is going to stop sending me demand letters for extra money on a thing I already bought, paid for and received?

      I keep wondering if they’ll escalate, but I’m refusing on principle.

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        If you already received your item(s) and you don’t immediately need to do any more business with them, it sounds like they don’t have a lot of leverage to get you to pay.

        Sounds like that might have been a screw up on their part.

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    I’m not sure what other system is even conceivably possible in the general case. There’s no straightforward universal relationship between tariffs paid by businesses and prices paid by the customers of those businesses.

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      I think the best system would be not to allow tariffs to be illegally implemented in the first place. But I realize that’s asking a lot.

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        I dream of having a functional government. I know everywhere has issues, but rule by EO from a wannabe dictator is tiring.

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      Take the total tariff income, divide it by the number of people in the country, and send out the checks.

      It’s the ONLY legitimate way to handle it.

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      There were some businesses passing the fees on directly to the end consumer via tariff implementation fees, but unless you have something like that itemized on an invoice, I believe you would be correct.

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        A business that passed 100% of the tariffs on to consumers via higher prices could still be worse off after getting a refund than it would have been if there never had been tariffs, if demand is elastic enough, so I’m not sure even that sort of data could resolve the question of who deserves what.