The plan was always to over saturate the market with coders so the big techs could lower their wages.
What’s the word from “billionaires are job creators” people? Oh, yeah. Their the ones laying everyone off in order to use “AI”.
“Go do what we told a billion others to do! Don’t break the mold!” Yea, big shock there.
Then code for free. Open source is a huge threat to these fuckers that made you bust your asses and then NOT HIRE YOU ANYWAY.
They are hoping you just do something else. I say code something else and take their fucking power away.
A threat? They will be more than happy to take work done for free and use it for their own needs. I guess at least if it’s a copyleft license they can’t just outright steal it.
If the code is GPL they’ll generally be scared to use it. I agree with you for non-copyleft open source though
When all the valuable code is free, the price of valuable code will be 0.
People will only profit from the value of the code, not the creation/ownership of the code itself. LLMs seem like they’re dropping the cost of code creation significantly (50-90% so far)… impacted players should plan accordingly.
It’s a fundamentally different model, not a broken one. It will break a lot of businesses if they don’t adapt.
All the big tech companies are built on open source projects… No idea what the guy you replied to was on about.
Any useful thing you code will be used to feed the beast.
Usually companies avoid GPL code like a plague
Company: “buy this code from us” Consumer: “no, the guy you stole from is giving it away for free. We’ll take from him directly and cut you out.” Company: Vaderno.wav
wait… it will be a matter of national security and like you know “you and what army”
Yeah, I thought that foolishness was behind us with the crypto export impossible to enforce rules, but it’s baaaack with AI.
But they can, and do.
Slip a pointless easter egg into the code. Make sure that if you don’t know it’s there, it can only be found by careful examination. Then sue any company whose code displays the easter egg and didn’t follow the terms of the license, and you’re set for life.
Only if you can afford better lawyers than they can.
If you have a slam-dunk case, you can usually find a lawyer who’s willing to take their pay out of the winnings.
Certain areas of law have provisions for this, others don’t. GPL law tends toward the not very lucrative side of things. What are your monetary damages? Well, I was going to make $0, but they broke my terms so now my GPL software is better known but I still make $0 - compute damages please?
I was referring to AI scraping.
“The rhetoric was, if you just learned to code, work hard and get a computer science degree, you can get six figures for your starting salary,” Ms. Mishra, now 21, recalls hearing as she grew up in San Ramon, Calif.
This has never ever been true for any job, especially at 21 years old.
I mean maybe there’s a rare trade that gives you the bick bucks from the get go, but even law practice and finance takes a lot of unpaid work to finally get properly paid.
In the late 1990s our MSCE graduates were starting at $70K which is easily in six figure territory today when adjusted for inflation.
Six figures is far from what it used to be.
Additionally, just “knowing how to code” has never been an actual ticket to success.
Software engineers are hired to solve problems, not write code. If you can write code but can’t solve problems and create innovative solutions you’re no better than a monkey.
Might not have been true, but has definitely been the narrative pedalled to young people for years.
There is always some career that kids get pushed into with a promise of “jobs in demand” and “guaranteed salary”.
It was true around the .com boom, and the advice might have been good for a few years, but like everything else: following yesterday’s trends will get you lost in a crowd of the clueless and under-informed.
Yep… I didn’t mean they weren’t lied to… But you’re right, they were lied to.
Yeah no shit. This was the plan all along. Big tech wanted to flood the market with too much talent so they could lower pay for engineers. This was always the plan.
They never gave two shits about women in coding, or inner city coding caml’s. They wanted mass cheap labor.
The cherry on top is right as that labor was coming out they got a double whammy of AI too.
The jobs didn’t follow because “big tech” lost what was left of its collective mind and put their heads all the way up each others asses.
The jobs were never going to follow either way. It was a way to make more workers so they could pay everyone less. If there’s 100 people practically begging for your job for half the pay, good luck negotiating a raise.
That is what the democrats told people who lost their jobs to closed coal mines and closed manufacturing plants.
I knew a guy who left Detroit at 30 to install A/C systems in Florida, made good money but by 40 he was tired of crawling around hot attics, so he went back to school, learned to code and went back to Detroit to work software instead of the factory floors… he did alright, didn’t set the world on fire, but also didn’t retire to an early grave with health problems from breathing fiberglass in 130 degree confined spaces.
Democrats didn’t close the manufacturing plants. Capitalists did.
Biden tells coal miners to “learn to code” – The Hill | https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/476391-biden-tells-coal-miners-to-learn-to-code/
I know, that’s why I said “manufacturing plants” and not “coal mines”.
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Serving capital has been the primary organizing function of the Democratic Party for at least the last 40 years.
Yes, both parties. But they didn’t pass any laws to ban manufacturing in US. Capitalists moved manufacturing to Asia because it was cheaper.
Both parties virtually paved the way for jobs to leave the country - it didn’t benefit the majority of their constituents.
