The site isn’t what you might think, though. The article is funny, but also a surprisingly good read:
According to the gym’s website, “There was a season of his life marked by homelessness, addiction and spiritual emptiness.” In another video, he admits, “I had a pornography addiction for almost 20 years.”
Mitch Parsons, founder of Youth Group for Men and Remnant Men in Denver, had a similar experience. “I quit four gyms before I built one,” he says on the Remnant Gym website. “I realized the problem wasn’t the gym. It was that no one had built what I actually needed, or what I wanted.”
I know its easy to laugh, but a “porn addiction” can be serious shit. Terry Crews gave some great talks about how it fucked up his life in all sorts of ways.
Also, it’s healthily skeptical:
Also, despite how often Parsons mentions having nakedness shoved in his face at the gyms in Denver, it’s unclear what he means by that. Gym policies across Denver require their members to wear shirts at all times. And Denver public indecency laws prohibit exposing one’s genitals in public.
This is what Hambrecht and Parsons are doing with their male-only gyms. They’re spreading conspiracies about morality and traditional marriage that cast women as dangerous. They’re promoting men rising up as warrior-kings who are ready to fight evil, and they’re getting rid of women who they claim are ruining everything.
As the empirical evidence for the threat white Christian nationalism presents to pluralistic democracy has mounted over the past decade, various insider defenders of conservative white Christianity — and even some mainstream white Christian theologians — have alleged the term is simply a cudgel. Those who qualify as Christian nationalists on public opinion surveys, they argue, only want to see a role for their faith in the public square…
Donald Trump is an abuser. He is an adjudicated rapist and predator. Donald Trump is a grifter. He is a well-known con man who gets away with the con because so many don’t want to talk about it. Donald Trump is a liar unlike any liar most of us ever have known. And there are enormous consequences to his perpetual lying. Donald Trump is literally the most dangerous man in the world, and you want to label me with “Trump Derangement Syndrome” for saying that.
Porn addiction is not a thing. It’s a made up concept slung around by christofascist chuds to hide their actual problem, which is that they have no self control and no respect for others’ boundaries.
No, that’s not how addiction is defined. Dependency is not addiction. You aren’t addicted to food or air. What “porn addiction” proponents are trying to convince you of is that any use of porn constitutes an addiction for which the only reasonable treatment is to stop viewing porn entirely. This is a tactic designed to both control and frustrate men to make them easier to manipulate. It’s a shame collar put around their necks to leash them. It’s not scientifically valid, they know that, and they do not care. Don’t mince words with me please.
So you read it right? So you understand that this doesn’t describe the normal human dependency on food? You understand that what they are addicted to is not food itself but some specific foods, because of specific things that eating those foods do for them? I mean, surely you actually read the thing you’re throwing in my face and understand how it reinforces what I’m saying.
Nah, you posted the link like it was a gotcha because you don’t understand the subject, you don’t know what the article says, and as such you don’t have an actual valid point to make. Nice try. Get blocked lol.
If you can get food addiction I think you can get porn addiction.
I get the distinction you’re trying to make between behavioral addictions and chemical (? I forget the name) ones like alcohol addiction. But behavioral addictions by definition can be almost anything. I’d wager a good portion of us are addicted to our phones, for example.
You may have a point there, but consider this: Absolutely none of the people behind this “porn addiction” meme are qualified professionals in a position to make that distinction. Their disingenuous and manipulative nature is obvious as shit. You can argue about whether or not some form of porn addiction exists all day, but it doesn’t matter whether or not it actually exists. They don’t care how real it is or isn’t. It’s a useful tool for them to spread fascism, and that’s reason enough to throw it in the garbage.
You’re right, my opinion doesn’t mean people don’t get addicted to porn. The consensus of the scientific community carries a bit more weight though, and that’s what’s behind my opinion. Believe whatever you want, but beware the ideological company you keep.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13371739/ porn addiction isn’t a term that has been adopted by science but problematic porn use or PPU is and it’s real. They did find that people from religious backgrounds called themselves addicts but weren’t always actually consuming a lot of porn.
I say this as someone who doesn’t have an issue with porn or people watching it. I fully agree that Christianity makes way too big a deal about porn and masturbation, but people def have real problems with their porn usage and not because it’s morally wrong to look at porn.
It’s real. Published one day ago:
https://baptistnews.com/article/men-only-gyms-seek-to-protect-christian-men-from-lust/
The site isn’t what you might think, though. The article is funny, but also a surprisingly good read:
I know its easy to laugh, but a “porn addiction” can be serious shit. Terry Crews gave some great talks about how it fucked up his life in all sorts of ways.
Also, it’s healthily skeptical:
It’s got some good writeups, and spicy ones:
https://baptistnews.com/article/why-do-we-keep-sounding-the-alarm/
https://baptistnews.com/article/in-3-charts-white-christian-nationalists-love-of-ice-and-concentration-camps/
Porn addiction is not a thing. It’s a made up concept slung around by christofascist chuds to hide their actual problem, which is that they have no self control and no respect for others’ boundaries.
I mean people can get addicted to anything, but it’s not the moral hazard they make it out to be.
No, that’s not how addiction is defined. Dependency is not addiction. You aren’t addicted to food or air. What “porn addiction” proponents are trying to convince you of is that any use of porn constitutes an addiction for which the only reasonable treatment is to stop viewing porn entirely. This is a tactic designed to both control and frustrate men to make them easier to manipulate. It’s a shame collar put around their necks to leash them. It’s not scientifically valid, they know that, and they do not care. Don’t mince words with me please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_addiction
So you read it right? So you understand that this doesn’t describe the normal human dependency on food? You understand that what they are addicted to is not food itself but some specific foods, because of specific things that eating those foods do for them? I mean, surely you actually read the thing you’re throwing in my face and understand how it reinforces what I’m saying.
I only pasted a link because I had a feeling you weren’t gonna be worth the conversation and I was right
Nah, you posted the link like it was a gotcha because you don’t understand the subject, you don’t know what the article says, and as such you don’t have an actual valid point to make. Nice try. Get blocked lol.
If you can get food addiction I think you can get porn addiction.
I get the distinction you’re trying to make between behavioral addictions and chemical (? I forget the name) ones like alcohol addiction. But behavioral addictions by definition can be almost anything. I’d wager a good portion of us are addicted to our phones, for example.
You may have a point there, but consider this: Absolutely none of the people behind this “porn addiction” meme are qualified professionals in a position to make that distinction. Their disingenuous and manipulative nature is obvious as shit. You can argue about whether or not some form of porn addiction exists all day, but it doesn’t matter whether or not it actually exists. They don’t care how real it is or isn’t. It’s a useful tool for them to spread fascism, and that’s reason enough to throw it in the garbage.
I didn’t disagree but that doesn’t mean people don’t get addicted to porn.
You’re right, my opinion doesn’t mean people don’t get addicted to porn. The consensus of the scientific community carries a bit more weight though, and that’s what’s behind my opinion. Believe whatever you want, but beware the ideological company you keep.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13371739/ porn addiction isn’t a term that has been adopted by science but problematic porn use or PPU is and it’s real. They did find that people from religious backgrounds called themselves addicts but weren’t always actually consuming a lot of porn.
I say this as someone who doesn’t have an issue with porn or people watching it. I fully agree that Christianity makes way too big a deal about porn and masturbation, but people def have real problems with their porn usage and not because it’s morally wrong to look at porn.