• belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 hours ago

    Don’t pretty much all Social Media have a chronological „Following“ feed already? Methinks they’re just going to argue that switching to that feed is „turning off“ the „algorithm“, no?

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      21 hours ago

      Yes, though this law specifically requires that users can “having their default feed … opt out of algorithmically ​recommended content and instead see posts only from the friends and creators they ⁠choose to follow.”.

      Basically all platforms inject other posts in your feed somewhere either as “recommendations” or just paid ads, and very few default to your subscriptions when you open an app.

  • Solrac@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I mean, this is pretty good in theory, in practice, we can just move more people to the fediverse

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 days ago

    Algorithm: a specific step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end

    Software is full of algorithms.

    I know there is also the recent meaning where “algorithm” stands for recommender systems and algorithmic curation, but I expect lawmakers to be a little more precise in their wording.

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      21 hours ago

      They want to make the Feed without algorithms so bad that nobody will use it.

      Social media companies want regulation to keep out competition while allowing them to keep the ads and algorithm flowing as is today as much as possible

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      1 day ago

      They can’t, if they do they’re calling out the social media sites for purposely targeting addictive algorithms and then this bandaid fix will be noticed for the bandaid fix it is. Most people don’t know social media uses specifically designed to be addictive algorithms. What happens if everyone knows that. So they flatten out the language.

  • Alexfire@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    On youtube turn off the auto play and mindfully choose what you want. Stop getting force fed like a mindless bag. Also use Duck video player and skip the ads.


    Misinformation,

    Childlike common clay masses,

    Like free heroin

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    2 days ago

    Article is light on details. I’m curious how they define what is “algorithm”-generated content and what isn’t.

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      1 day ago

      I think the general idea is to go from a ‘weighted’ feed showing promoted or ‘trending content’ to a chronological feed showing newest to oldest of your friends posts.
      Thats the way they have been framing it from what i have heard on the news.

  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Coming up: upload your ID to verify your Australian citizenship

    (but props to Australia for trying to regulate it nevertheless)

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    2 days ago

    Damn, first legitimately good thing I’ve seen come out of that country in a while as far as legislation is concerned.

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    2 days ago

    I would probably use facebook much more if my feed was only my friends and followed pages. Their loss on insisting on this I guess.

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Easy: get off of it.

      If your family is that important and refuses to move: call them occasionally.

      Every second you spend on it is another cent given to meta

  • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Am I the only one who thinks big tech won’t do jack shit other than nod and smile and install a user button that doesn’t actually change anything at all?

    They are so NOT going to turn this off. This – the ability to manipulate users by controlling exactly what they see – is the sole reason they are in business. It gets them ad revenue, data to resell, and massive, uncontrollable political power.

    And they’re just going to let a user turn that highly individualized control off and turn themselves into a less monetizable, more ad immune user one by one because some govt told them to? The same governments that have been telling them not to do this or that for decades now?

    Lol, pull the other one.

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      1 hour ago

      This is the Labor party bringing it in, so you can bet the legislation will just-barely-sort-of do what it says on the tin.

      That’s what you get from centre-right governments…

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Tbf they already do that. Google’s had a button to turn off ad personalization that’s never worked since like, 2014 or something

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        2 days ago

        It DOES work, they don’t show ads based on personalized data. What it’s not garanteed is that are not processing or selling your data on the back anyway.

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        2 days ago

        Ad personalization is hard to verify because it’s all happening on the backend. What you see in a feed is much more visible, so maybe that will make it harder to work around. I haven’t read much about how the legislation works and how it defines algorithms, but if it’s something like, “only show me people I’ve subscribed to”, then it would be pretty easy to verify whether they are showing that or not.

        But in general, I agree. Big tech companies always find a way to work around this legislation. Enforcement is the issue, not the laws themselves.

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          21 hours ago

          I find it easy (when I’m not blocking literally every ad) because they are usually so fucking dumb - do you constantly get bombed by ads about stuff you’ve recently researched and purchased? If yes, personalization is on.

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      2 days ago

      I wish people were more open to simply not using products they dont like. Its inconveniencing, sure, but if you fundamentally disagree with the platform youre on, just get off. Maybe also get off, while youre at it