• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      8 hours ago

      Sure, make a post about guys and see how long it takes these same users to comment saying “why is this unnecessarily gendered?!? Women experience this too!” Or even “That’s not an issue men face! It’s clearly a women’s issue.”

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          Literally any community that is mostly women when someone complains about a guy issue

          Or the numerous accounts of women finally acknowledging some things men have been complaining about for years once trans men start talking about them (alienation, mental damage from constantly being treated like a predator by default, etc)

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            Literally any community that is mostly women when someone complains about a guy issue

            If it’s a women’s community, that’s very understandable. A man will find better answers for a guy issue in a men’s community. Same as if a woman posted a women’s issue in a men’s community - it would be inappropriate and out of place.

            Is this community mostly men or a men’s community and thus women are not allowed to post from their perspective? Must women center men or include men in every post in this community?

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              7 hours ago

              Are you saying you won’t take my word for it as a man that my experiences as a man have included a pattern of being invalidated and erased in spaces where people talk about the problems they face?

              Imagine if the roles were reversed. Imagine a man saying “You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.

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                7 hours ago

                “You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.

                And I would be able to pull up quite a few examples, including this post right here.

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                  7 hours ago

                  But would you? It seems more often the response is just to call it misogyny that someone would even ask for proof.

                  And what about for discourse about stuff that happens in person rather than online, where there’s no written record of the things said and done?

                  How do you prove microaggressions that are whispered in passing? It would be ridiculous to expect someone to prove that kind of experience.

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                    7 hours ago

                    You brought up a very specific scenario:

                    Sure, make a post about guys and see how long it takes these same users to comment saying “why is this unnecessarily gendered?!? Women experience this too!” Or even “That’s not an issue men face! It’s clearly a women’s issue.”

                    Can you share posts that men have made from their perspective where women came in and asked why it’s gendered?

                    Like what happened in this post.