Are you saying you won’t take my word for it as a man that my experiences as a man have included a pattern of being invalidated and erased in spaces where people talk about the problems they face?
Imagine if the roles were reversed. Imagine a man saying “You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.
“You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.
And I would be able to pull up quite a few examples, including this post right here.
Sure, make a post about guys and see how long it takes these same users to comment saying “why is this unnecessarily gendered?!? Women experience this too!” Or even “That’s not an issue men face! It’s clearly a women’s issue.”
Can you share posts that men have made from their perspective where women came in and asked why it’s gendered?
This is the first thing that came to mind, but it’s more that a woman deliberately made something gendered that wasn’t gendered to begin with, specifically to attack men, and then when men took issue with she doubled-down with some exceptionalist rhetoric and moral pedestal standing while saying she doesn’t care about men’s feelings and that they should just suck it up because no one cares about them or their problems:
As you’ll see, not all of that is still visible as most of the conversation got removed.
And of course it’s not the exact scenario, but I’m not going to go digging to look for situations that match a little better, even though many of those have been more recent.
Sure, I’ll tag you next time I see it. I’m sure it won’t take long
You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?
Are you saying you won’t take my word for it as a man that my experiences as a man have included a pattern of being invalidated and erased in spaces where people talk about the problems they face?
Imagine if the roles were reversed. Imagine a man saying “You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.
And I would be able to pull up quite a few examples, including this post right here.
But would you? It seems more often the response is just to call it misogyny that someone would even ask for proof.
And what about for discourse about stuff that happens in person rather than online, where there’s no written record of the things said and done?
How do you prove microaggressions that are whispered in passing? It would be ridiculous to expect someone to prove that kind of experience.
You brought up a very specific scenario:
Can you share posts that men have made from their perspective where women came in and asked why it’s gendered?
Like what happened in this post.
This is the first thing that came to mind, but it’s more that a woman deliberately made something gendered that wasn’t gendered to begin with, specifically to attack men, and then when men took issue with she doubled-down with some exceptionalist rhetoric and moral pedestal standing while saying she doesn’t care about men’s feelings and that they should just suck it up because no one cares about them or their problems:
https://piefed.social/comment/9567473
As you’ll see, not all of that is still visible as most of the conversation got removed.
And of course it’s not the exact scenario, but I’m not going to go digging to look for situations that match a little better, even though many of those have been more recent.
So it will take about 5 months for that to happen in the reverse and the woman in question will be heavily downvoted?
Ok.
Nope, missing the point