• Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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    1 day ago

    All while having a climate change denying president that pushes for “clean coal” whatever that means 🙄

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      Imagine a population so stupid, that you can just say “clean coal” and it fucking works.

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        I suppose the fact that education is very expensive there is one of the reason the population got dumber overall.

        Where I live I had the opportunity to go to the 11th best engineering school for 500€ per semester. And even if you couldn’t pay that yourself you could ask for financial help from the government.

        There shouldn’t be a price tag to knowledge…

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      The only reason we call it climate change is because George W Bush admin directed the entire government, NASA included, to stop using global warming, because climate change sounds less scary and more manageable.

      Then we backronymed that into “actually they’re totally different words with different meanings”.

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        The semantic debate is pointless.

        These climate change or global warming deniers are not on the same plane of this conversation.

        They open their windows, say “look its cold outside this morning, global warming isn’t true”.

        It is so insanely a bad faith argument that discussing about the way they call it global warming or climate change when they deny the phenomenon is pointless. They are way past semantics.

        I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m just saying we are way way past that kind of debates. And it’s not even a debate per se when one of the participant is going so low as to present weather and climate change as the same thing.

        I think the climate change deniers use global warming for their vocabulary just because they can say the above bullshit and pretend like weather has anything to do with climate change.

        On a more rational and scientific level I think climate change would be prefered by climatologist because it’s not as simple as “everything in the system that is climate is getting hotter”. Some air will get hotter at some places, some water will get exceptionally colder at some other places. The climate systems are getting dysfunctional is the main idea. Global warming is actually rather reductive in the way a scientific would talk about what is going wrong.

        At the end of the day, global warming isn’t probably the most scientific way to present the problem but I agree that for the layman it’s probably the easiest to help understand why it’s a critical issue.

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          I don’t meet too many people that say that “it’s cold outside” thing anymore. Even the politicians, at least in my country, don’t. Now they just argue about what’s causing global warming, or whether it’s worth trying to fight it.

          I think changing terms confuses people and should be avoided whenever possible.

          Especially because GWB was right, “climate change” is less scary sounding.

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            Well Trump and many of his supporters are very much in this opinion…

            That’s millions of people in the United States that think “global warming is an hoax” and it matters. This news does show that individual states can still transition to greener energy sources but it’s still a major issue that the president pushes hard his toxic ideas…

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    We somehow still managed that despite the fossil fuel industry’s meddling for fucking ages.

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      Only probably a decade or so later than it would’ve happened if Jimmy Carter’s panels hadn’t been removed from the White House.

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    Sush. dont let the republicans know that you’re reducing energy bills. they’ll find a way to charge you and give the proceeds to their oligarch friends