• Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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    1 day ago

    The semantic debate is pointless.

    These climate change or global warming deniers are not on the same plane of this conversation.

    They open their windows, say “look its cold outside this morning, global warming isn’t true”.

    It is so insanely a bad faith argument that discussing about the way they call it global warming or climate change when they deny the phenomenon is pointless. They are way past semantics.

    I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m just saying we are way way past that kind of debates. And it’s not even a debate per se when one of the participant is going so low as to present weather and climate change as the same thing.

    I think the climate change deniers use global warming for their vocabulary just because they can say the above bullshit and pretend like weather has anything to do with climate change.

    On a more rational and scientific level I think climate change would be prefered by climatologist because it’s not as simple as “everything in the system that is climate is getting hotter”. Some air will get hotter at some places, some water will get exceptionally colder at some other places. The climate systems are getting dysfunctional is the main idea. Global warming is actually rather reductive in the way a scientific would talk about what is going wrong.

    At the end of the day, global warming isn’t probably the most scientific way to present the problem but I agree that for the layman it’s probably the easiest to help understand why it’s a critical issue.

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      1 day ago

      I don’t meet too many people that say that “it’s cold outside” thing anymore. Even the politicians, at least in my country, don’t. Now they just argue about what’s causing global warming, or whether it’s worth trying to fight it.

      I think changing terms confuses people and should be avoided whenever possible.

      Especially because GWB was right, “climate change” is less scary sounding.

      • Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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        1 day ago

        Well Trump and many of his supporters are very much in this opinion…

        That’s millions of people in the United States that think “global warming is an hoax” and it matters. This news does show that individual states can still transition to greener energy sources but it’s still a major issue that the president pushes hard his toxic ideas…