• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Libreoffice. I tried it long ago and it was bad, but that is no longer the case. Give it a chance

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      4 hours ago

      “But the interface looks slightly different and I’m scared of being in charge of things”

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      I don’t think it was ever bad, the compatibility with Microsoft office is not completely their yet making it not usable to Excel experts of for some teachers due to docx support being a bit lackluster

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        I think Excel has more functionality than any of the FOSS alternatives, unfortunately. It’s some pretty powerful software.

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        It is worth pointing out that the only reason docx support is lackluster is because of active efforts from MS to undermine third party support. It is a interesting story actually, but I don’t recall exactly, but it goes like this, there was some regulatory push to open formats and MS undermined this by creating and making the docx (and all other *x family) open but make it so convoluted and unnecessarily difficult. If I am not mistaken they even keep unnecessarily updating and changing it so third party is always lagging behind in support and the cherry on top that MS don’t correctly implement its own format on purpose so the files are effectively broken for anyone that follows the spec to a T.

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    Yay, that’ll be a fun day at work… I’m in charge of administering our fleet of Macs and all the users use MS Office heavily. We are currently not allowed to provide access to Office 365 for data protection reasons, so if they brick the volume license we are currently using I won’t have a viable solution for them, beyond switching to OWA/Apple Mail and some other office suite.

    The writing’s been on the wall for a while though. They recently made it so that you can’t hide the Office 365 nag screen while using a volume license, which confuses users into thinking they don’t have a license. I fucking hate Microslop.

    Edit: As far as I can tell this will only affect users using a 2019 volume license (which is already not compatible with current versions), but the 2021 license will continue to work? (Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/update-microsoft-365-or-office-on-your-macos-or-ios-device-f418ae5d-bb5f-4078-b3d9-9340f5dd084e ). I’d definitely be interested if anyone has more information. In any case, I’m sure it’s just a matter of time until they fuck everyone not using a subscription based license for any of their products.

    Edit 2: Nevermind. 13th October is the day Microslop has chosen to fuck me: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/system-requirements/end-of-support-for-office-2021

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    They even edited information about support, it was meant to work but they edited it to your files will be safe and openable in word 365 app

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    That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. People bought a license to use a product, with the reasonable expectation that said license would be both perpetual and unchanging.

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        While generally true, sometimes it is about the principle of it, and the only way it makes sense to address it is through class action.

        If I join in on a class action suit, it’s more about making the company pay (and hopefully changing their, and others’, policy to avoid future lawsuits), than getting a check for $8.25 in the mail 3 years down the line.

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      Yeah, Microsoft is gambling that the number of users who care enough to act are too small, or won’t bother, or won’t realise they can.

      This is how big corporations get away with this shit. It’s not “illegal” in the criminal sense, but it is a breach of contract between Microsoft and those affected; and they likely could win against Microsoft.

      The good news is the outrage over this is probably more damaging than any settlement or long drawn out legal case even would be. It’s at just the right time as Microsoft deals with major issues and unhappiness with Windows users over poor updates, crappy feature changes to Win 11 and of course force feeding of CoPilot down every users throat, while also decimating their own staff to save money for AI and polluting their own products codebases with shitty AI generated slop. Perfect storm has hit Microsoft, and they don’t even realise how bad it is yet.

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          As an Apple user, I laughed at this… the one thing we all want is NOT to have Gemini or AI on our phones. I mean, if we wanted Gemini, we could just use Google & Android.

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        It’s crazy how once these companies get big enough, they become a cancer that just slowly self-destructs. Everything that’s going wrong in their business can be blamed solely on them. Just all around gross incompetence in the most absurd, blatant way possible. I really hope that, in the near future, we see the main opinion of Microsoft finally coming around to understanding this redundant company’s pig-brained, slop-obsessed stupidity.

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      Yeah. I could see them deprecating O365 hooks and services or something, but the entire suite? That’s bullshit.

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    I distinctly remember the conversations about Office’s phone home system and people specifically saying “this seems problematic” and Microsoft hand waving those concerns away.

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      it’s not the ‘phoning home’ that’s doing this. they built-in a time bomb by way of an expiring digital certificate. one that won’t get updated or replaced because the software versions in question are ‘out of support’.

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        Well it kinda is because that certificate is needed for the phoning home. If it didn’t need to communicate at all it wouldn’t have needed an SSL certificate so there would have been nothing to expire.

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    12 hours ago

    Won’t help with Macs …

    But if you really insist on using Windows or Office: look into Mass Gravel.