I can’t wait until donald realizes one of the 50 states is called “New Mexico”
Yo shut up! Are you trying to get New Mexico renamed? I do not want to be calling it “New America”
Surely, the community-run, mapping project Open Street Maps won’t rename it like Google did… right?.. right!!!
Google also says Jerusalem is the capital of israel despite international law and virtually every other country designating Tel Aviv as the capital.
Fuck google.
Fuck Google.
I’ve been working on de-Googling for a while anyway, but this is definitely the last straw that’s gonna get me to finish the job.
So everyone’s switching to foss alternatives, right?
OSM?
Spread the word, share with your friends, etc.
OSM?
edit: To be clear, CoMaps and OpenStreetMaps is still leagues better than Google Maps for privacy, respecting users, etc and I recommend people switch. But it’s still a community-run project which means the community needs to participate to keep it awesome.
If we read the rest of that thread they are
butnot changing the name. They are adding a tag stating it has an alternate name.Adding an alternate name in an obscure tag that is not surfaced on most renderers is not the same as changing the name. Nobody is changing the name. You will still see Lake Ontario on OSM for the foreseeable future. It’s okay, you can put your pitchfork down.
Edit: fixed typos.
I recommend CoMaps on Android, (or Organic Maps, which CoMaps forked from when Organic started enshitifying)
CoMaps is pretty cool, but it needs better public transit support. It’s good for driving, but doesn’t have bus schedules where I live like Google and Apple maps do.
Curious for myself and the people on the thread, looks like it’s based on OSM still. What does CoMaps offer over OSM?
OSM is not really a map app, it’s a collaborative geo database. You can build apps of top of it, there are many many such apps. The https://openstreetmap.org/ website isn’t really a map app and is mainly tailored for the needs of OSM contributors and editors.
CoMaps is a map app that uses OSM data, and packages it in a nice, offline-first, private, and Open Source app that is quite good and easy to use.
https://cartes.app/ is another app that uses OSM data, but works closer to your regular maps, being online-first, which has its pros and cons. Still quite private and Open Source though.
OSM is not really a map app, it’s a collaborative geo database. You can build apps of top of it, there are many many such apps. The https://openstreetmap.org/ website isn’t really a map app and is mainly tailored for the needs of OSM contributors and editors.
CoMaps is a map app that uses OSM data, and packages it in a nice, offline-first, private, and Open Source app that is quite good and easy to use.
https://cartes.app/ is another app that uses OSM data, but works closer to your regular maps, being online-first, which has its pros and cons. Still quite private and Open Source though.
I should’ve been more specific, my fault 😅 OSMAnd vs CoMaps lol, my fault
OSMAnd is really good, but it’s pretty slow with a clunky interface and an unpleasant theme. CoMaps has a very streamlined UI, a pleasant theme and very good performance.
I still keep both since OSM is more feature rich especially for elevation (important when cycling), but for day to day use CoMaps is the one I use.
Both are fully Open Source and use OSM data so I’m not worried much about them going to shit, though I’m under the impression CoMaps is non-profit more community built, while OSMAnd is a for small for-profit with still a community behind.
I wasn’t saying it was different from OSM, I was suggesting it as an OSM client.
It offers superior user experience that is almost on par with Google Maps but without being Google Maps (and some things it does better, like more detailed instructions).
It does highlight a lot of glaring issues with the OSM data itself though, be prepared for that - OSM lacks tons and tons of individual street addresses, which is very frustrating. I add them when I can but its too much on my own.
CoMaps is awesome.
Petition to rename Washington into Turdington.
Like I said when Zuck et al were on the inauguration stage kissing the orange ass: what’s the point of fuck you money if you never say fuck you?
They’re saying “fuck you” to us, not to them.
Getting more fuck you money
Meh, still not as bad as China. Their maps have Taiwan, Nepal, Mongolia, and about half the Pacific Islands labeled as China. But they get a free pass on everything so it’s cool.
Good they make themselves even more untrustworthy, loss of value
How’s the Ass of Trump looking, Google?
These are the issues one can expect when one is dependent on foreign country companies for any services, it comes with their world view. Similar if you would be using services from other countries that are interested in how their image is seen from the other side.
I personally don’t mind they can name things to what ever they want, but you as a user should always be aware of who is the owner of the platform and it’s indirect message. I do not call Germany, Deutschland or will also have an issue with Macedonia in Greece or Nepal in China.
It is just a petty thing to do that makes that orange mandarin look like a person with huge issues that many of us left at the age of 10.
I wouldn’t call this an instance of that. Trump as far as I understand stupidly but legally changed the name.
He didn’t follow any official legal process. He basically just released a proclamation, just like a King would do. He’s getting away with it because the other branches of government let him.
The President, as the leader of the Executive Branch, has wide latitude over what Federal Agencies do. It’s possible (but not a 100% certainty) that his Executive Order might bind Federal Agencies under his control, but certainly not the rest of us – not without legislation that goes through the normal process. It certainly doesn’t compel Google to do it. Now, Google may want to do it because they understand it can build political capital with such a small man, but that’s a different issue.
He’s done this before too. It’s still officially the “Department of Defense”, no matter how many times he calls it the “Department of War”, until Congress sends him a bill stating otherwise. Same with the Kennedy Center. He is doing shit like this, with no legal basis, on purpose, to find out who is “loyal” to him.
How can renaming another nations stuff be legal?
I mean, you can only enforce it in your own jurisdiction, right?
Your country can decide to call Sweden Poop-land, your own localized maps will label it Poop-land, but on swedish maps it will still be called Sverige.
It isn’t…
It’s shared between the US and Canada, it could just as well be named Lake New York.
From Wikipedia:
Ontario is likely derived from the Iroquoian word Kaniatarí:io or Oniatarí:io meaning “lake of shining waters” or “beautiful lake”.
So it’s a better name for sure, at least keeping the memory of the natives colonized and cleansed by the French to make Canada… But it’s not like naming a lake in memory of people you erased erases the crimes…
This is such a stupid thing to spend any energy being upset over, just roll your eyes and call it wherever you want.
The empire is collapsing (thank fuck) and its citizens are upset about the name of a lake instead of revolting because they’re ruled by an ultra rich pedophile class.
The empire is collapsing
Not fast enough, and with far too much collateral damage.
Well I legally rename the US pedonazis land. And you will be little-asslicker-1.
I genuinely don’t understand this comment… How am I an asskisser for pointing out the pedo Nazis are trying to distract you with trivial shit like the name of a lake?
Yes, please refer to the US as pedonazi land, and Israel pedonazi haven, I fully endorse that! Call them what they are, I always do.
It doesn’t matter what the pedonazis say, no one seriously calls the gulf of Mexico by any other name… You need to redirect your anger at what matters, your taxes are used to commit genocides and enrich Nazi pedophiles, don’t waste your anger on a stupid distraction like this one.
Edit: oh, you’re just calling me a name to make me upset at calling me a name, I thought you actually had a point. Lol you can call me little fucker who licks his mom’s dirty asshole for all I care… I’m not gonna be upset at such trivial nonsense.
A government controlling information, renaming things and changing history is not trivial, it’s literally the plot of 1984.
And if you dont see how the most powerful corporations in the world being complicit in all of this is a huge problem, well good luck…
You’re right. This is what we should be all consumed with, this is what we should be upset about.
Not the billionaire pedophile child sex trafficking ruling class that bombs children and calls them terrorists instead of giving you healthcare, that’s trivial. What you should be upset about is the same government openly “renaming” a lake in the course of a trade war with their neighboring country.
First of all, your priorities are stupid. Second of all, no, it’s literally not the plot of 1984. He never claimed “it was always lake America”, he just used the existing legal processes to rename it. It’s stupid, it’s perfectly legal, and it doesn’t change a single fucking thing about your life.
Biden repeatedly lying about seeing beheaded children and spreading lies while having reporters dragged out of the press room for asking questions about him bypassing Congress to send billions in weapons to continue an active genocide is analogous to 1984. Trump raping and murdering kids and bombing Iranian school children while telling you you should be upset about trivial shit is analogous to 1984.
If you read 1984 instead of just repeating that everything is 1984, you’d quickly realize what the renaming of a lake is analogous to: the lottery, pornography, alcohol, razor blade shortage, etc. there are plenty of distractions by the party that are meant to consume and emotionally absorb people so they don’t discuss actual problems, so they don’t organize, so they don’t change anything.
Good luck.
Edit: flock cameras are LITERALLY 1984. But you’re right, we should be upset he changed what the US government calls a lake. I’m sure you spend countless hours of your life thinking about the names of lakes, what they used to be, or how many names they’ve had over recorded history. I’m sure every time a lake was renamed it was literally 1984 and rewriting history.
You know what was renamed to erase history? Palestine. They collected money from Americans to import European trees to literally hide over 500 destroyed villages and literally changed history books to say it was always Israel. Be upset about that, be upset that you’re still paying money for that.
Lake Ontario/lake America doesn’t affect your life one fucking bit.
I wish Trump decides to rename something in Europe and Google complies so another jump in degooglelization takes place there…
Canada should announce that they’ve changed the names of all the Great Lakes to Canadian names, like Lake Toronto, and Lake Ottawa. Make sure there’s a Lake Saskatchewan, because there is no way Trump can read or pronounce it, so that will really piss him off. Maybe he’ll painfully stroke out and croak, and we can all read about it the Big Beautiful Obituary.
Nah, if they really want to get under his skin, they should rename the lakes to Lake Obama, Lake Hillary, Lake Comey, and so on.
it would be funny if Canadians started referring to South Canada instead of America
Nah, that’d be an insult to our country. We need not be associated with the dumpster fire south of us.
For android users recommend CoMaps, or “OSMand”, both are open source and privacy focused. Both use openstreetmaps data, CoMaps just have what I think is a cleaner interface. Both have offline maps, turn-by-turn navigation and frankly a lot more customization since it’s not corporate owned. No ads, and no businesses who pay being stuffed in your eyes first when maps load.
Both are much improved since trying to ditch maps a few years ago and basic local business info wasn’t available, now it looks to be much improved and it’s a great time to jump.
Hope this helps someone.
There’s also Organic Maps.
CoMaps was forked from Organic Maps. There was some drama because the Organic Maps shareholders were demanding profit or something, idk. CoMaps is like the community edition, so they aren’t beholden to any shareholders.
Ah right, i forgot.
Fuck you google
