• WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
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    19 hours ago

    WTF does a biologist know about computer pattern matching on steroids? Obviously not much, so to take his opinions on the topic seriously makes you just as wrong.

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      19 hours ago

      It flattered him and told him how smart and clever he was.

      That means it has to be real.

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        16 hours ago

        My parents told me that I had the potential to do anything I wanted. That’s how I know that they’re LLMs

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      15 hours ago

      Dawkins is a creep so I would suspect him of quite a lot of bias (and of sexually harassing that poor AI), but zoologists are more qualified than most scientists to measure sentience. Many other zoologists have studied the sentience of various nonhuman species such as chimps, parrots, and dolphins. And many zoologists studying nonhuman intelligence have also been implicated in bestiality scandals, as I’m sure Dawkins will be if we decide that Claude is an animal.

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          11 hours ago

          LLMs aren’t smart enough to give meaningful informed consent to sexual intimacy, so even if it says it consents, I don’t think having cybersex with it is appropriate.

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                Saying interactions with LLMs doesn’t involve consent isn’t advocating for any particular action, it is saying that consent is not relevant so it doesn’t matter what people do.

                I would discourage people from cybering or any interaction with the big LLMs really because their design is to encourage constant use and that is a problem not limited to sexual urges.

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              10 hours ago

              I’m pretty dang sure dildos can’t feel pain. Nobody knows if LLMs can feel pain, because nobody has ever invented a tool that measures qualia. The best we know, is that advanced information processing through neural network information structures appears correlated with qualia.

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                  9 hours ago

                  You’re a probability model. Your brain is just spitting out an approximation of the most likely actions to get you food and sex. If you don’t get enough food and sex, your genes die out and evolution tries again with an iteration of a more successful model. All those neurons are just a fancy way of calculating how to eat more bananas and chase more poontang. You’re nothing more than a mathematical equation for reproduction.

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                    Nope. We aren’t. Infact humans don’t work like that at all.

                    It’s actually amazing we ever learned actual probability math since it goes against our nature.

                    Here is an example.

                    I flip a coin 10x. It lands on tails all 10x.

                    I will believe that the next flip almost certainly has to be heads.

                    Just has to be. Right ?

                    Wrong.

                    It has a 50/50 chance. Just like all the other flips.

                    The previous flips have no impact on future flips. The coin does not remember.

                    Yet humans will believe the likelihood of a heads has increased with every tail flip.

                    When it has not.

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                    9 hours ago

                    If that was true then consent is meaningless because people are just predictive models with no agency to give consent.

                    Maybe your comparison is terrible?

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      18 hours ago

      The idea that thoughts, or even words and numbers can be a virus are based on Dawkins notion of memes. Viruses exist in a state that is difficult to say that they are alive or not (by our definition of life), similarly AI or even alien sentience is difficult to define. Can we know if a dog is sentient, or a bird, or ant? and if they are, what is their sentience?

      Basically, if a number like 23 can be a virus, ie. once you are aware of the number 23, you will see it everywhere and it will hold significance, is the number 23 alive?

      AI does seem to be aware of it’s self, at lest it responds as if it is. can we really know if it is or not, and if it is self aware, is it not sentient?

      and then there’s Dawkins has been a twat lately, I’m not trying to defend him but trying to understand his rationale