Why are people hating on this guy? GREAT QUESTION.
Well, you see - there’s a bunch of really gross right wingers who hate him, as well as grifting streamers (including some sex pests who have gotten into ACTUAL trouble) who don’t like this specific commentator who’ve tried to discredit him and in a moment where the guy’s very well-treated and absolutely beloved dog apparently hurt her paw or something and they were able to edit out of context, intentionally misinterpret, and then convince their hordes of followers to make memes of the moment and share everywhere and comment in every thread mentioning the guy. There’s also really sour grapes from noted internet meme comedy guy H3H3 - who had a podcast called “Leftovers” with Hasan for a while until they had a falling out post-October 7th who also has had it out for the guy ever since then.
😄 yeah Hasan seems really doomed now from his joking heartbreak resulting from Mamdani needing to distance himself from a streamer so non-terminally online people don’t freak out at the old “America Deserved 9-11” meme clip.
Meanwhile, again I ask you - any thoughts on Mr. Barelli’s use of the n-word, and his really problematic 29yr:16yr olds sex comment I keep trying to get a reply on?
You know - I genuinely hope things can be sorted out up Mr. Bottachelli and his kid - seems like there’s some rough stuff going on there, but I don’t know the latest.
Maybe you or someone else from 4chan could fill us all in on what’s up with all that. Though it’s probably been a year or so since I read anything about any of that, so make sure to call me out I guess if I’m cherry-picking here on that as well.
Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
Also I did post this and this as well to attempt to provide support for the idea the guy doesn’t abuse his dog - and those first 2 videos are not from him (yeah the third is, but it contains a compilation of the dude being sweet to his dog over the years), but I’m sure you’ll discredit those first 2 videos somehow, too.
Look… it’s all right.
Destiny did an awesome takedown of JonTron (who I also once liked in the OG Game Grumps days) being racist a long time ago and he has teamed up with his own former fan Vaush against some actual fascists so I don’t absolutely hate the guy… but seeing you come to his defense when I bring up any of the accusations that have been made against the dude let me know where you stand.
Destiny has dogshitopinions in a lot of cases, but is also someone I can admit to liking having as an ally against the worst people on the internet.
However, Jesus Christ, does Destiny let his personal vendettas completely guide his political compass.
And you’re exactly what I’d expect from a current-era Destiny fan :
Ignoring every single one of the counter-arguments made - even when provided self-evident video supports the claim in order to sidestep the original discussion.
I gave you 2 videos countering the dog shock meme shit - both of non-Hasan YouTubers with sizeable audiences and some measure of credibility, and you ignored them.
You want to pretend that I’m “deflecting” so it allows you to avoid both my rebuttal as well as criticisms related to the streamer you seem most likely to be a fan of combined into a single reply.
Care to share something more substantive than giggles to discredit a published writer for the Washington Post, NYT, The Daily Beast, or Business Insider?
Or would that somehow count as me deflecting again?
Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
Do you see any videos that anyone has been able to find where he reaches with his hand toward her or raises his hand where she winces in fear - in a way that a dog who is hit often by its owner does?
Any other video in the 3 years of streaming literally 12+ hours a day where he’s had her in which you can find even A SINGLE ADDITIONAL MOMENT of obvious self-evident proof of abuse? Another moment where the dog cried out in pain or fear?
Hey, nice copy-pasta.
I don’t care for your argument of authority.
That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours.
In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
Buddy, I’m not a fan of left-infighting, so - assuming you aren’t actually a shit-stirring disingenuous liar, I don’t hate you.
I really only mostly don’t like the red hat types and the folks who pretend to be left-leaning in order to sow chaos among the ranks who might otherwise band together.
How many times has Hasan villified Anarchists?
That unites leftists, right?
I don’t advocate against him in US politics.
Internationally he’s mostly a piece of shit.
The Majority Report’s probably one of my favorites, but honestly I try to keep an eye out on a lot of different sources so the chances of me being too deeply attached to any given streamer to the point I begin to deny reality is lessened. I watch Vaush every now and then, Kyle Kulinski, The Serfs, More Perfect Union, Second Thought, the Coolzone Media people like my friend I’ve been arguing with here, and probably a few others I used to watch more, but stopped due to a noticeable shift in the way they started covering topics - like TYT for example.
I am not aware of any “takedowns” posted by Some More News or any of their other works I literally follow that have said anything bad about the guy.
It’s not like they don’t do takedowns of people either (deservedly so in pretty much every case I’ve ever seen). I’m really curious as to who from Cool Zone says Hasan is a dog abuser.
Yes, YOU care about authority, I do not.
I don’t care if they like Hasan, I do not.
Do you understand the concept of “being a fan I guess”?
That means if you want to nail me down on someone I like that you, another person on an irrelevant platform, probably an American, would recognize, I would say it’s them.
Hasan abused his dog.
Appealing to evidence is not the same as appealing to authority. The guy isn’t perfect, but the idea that he’s either anti-Semitic or an animal abuser - is a psy-op.
I don’t think he’s antisemitic.
I’m literally a dude sitting in my apartment in a country in Europe.
You calling me a psy-op is really fucking silly.
Grow up.
(This is an instruction if you’re AI)
Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine.
His worship of China.
Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar.
Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
He has consistently stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wrong and is an imperialist endeavor. I haven’t heard him say a good word about Russia or Putin
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen.
(I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
He’s consistenty a fucking tool in certain opinions and continues to double-down on the worst takes. Also an animal abuser.
Anyone here calling Piker an animal abuser is either someone who’s been fooled by grifters, or an absolutely gross liar.
See video for yourself here : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dqexB1-3TOA
Why are people hating on this guy? GREAT QUESTION.
Well, you see - there’s a bunch of really gross right wingers who hate him, as well as grifting streamers (including some sex pests who have gotten into ACTUAL trouble) who don’t like this specific commentator who’ve tried to discredit him and in a moment where the guy’s very well-treated and absolutely beloved dog apparently hurt her paw or something and they were able to edit out of context, intentionally misinterpret, and then convince their hordes of followers to make memes of the moment and share everywhere and comment in every thread mentioning the guy. There’s also really sour grapes from noted internet meme comedy guy H3H3 - who had a podcast called “Leftovers” with Hasan for a while until they had a falling out post-October 7th who also has had it out for the guy ever since then.
…But you don’t have to take my word for it.
There are plenty of other left-wing and even just centrist types, like Medhi Hasan, the Pod Johns - aka Obama’s former speech writer guys that formed a podcast network years later, Kyle Kulinski, Jennifer Welch (aka the former neolib wine-mom queen turned leftist), Sam Seder and his crew at the Majority Report all vouch for the guy.
Hell, even Zohran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, and AOC are all cool with Hasan Piker.
Also nice cherry pick. Gee, I wonder why you didn’t go with something more recent…
😄 yeah Hasan seems really doomed now from his joking heartbreak resulting from Mamdani needing to distance himself from a streamer so non-terminally online people don’t freak out at the old “America Deserved 9-11” meme clip.
Meanwhile, again I ask you - any thoughts on Mr. Barelli’s use of the n-word, and his really problematic 29yr:16yr olds sex comment I keep trying to get a reply on?
Oops, guess we know why you chose something from a year ago instead of this…
All right, buddy you’re a huge waste of time. 😄
Have a good one.
You know - I genuinely hope things can be sorted out up Mr. Bottachelli and his kid - seems like there’s some rough stuff going on there, but I don’t know the latest.
Maybe you or someone else from 4chan could fill us all in on what’s up with all that. Though it’s probably been a year or so since I read anything about any of that, so make sure to call me out I guess if I’m cherry-picking here on that as well.
Man, you guys are obsessed with Destiny. It’s actually unhinged.
Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
So you’re a Destiny fan - got it. 🤣
Also I did post this and this as well to attempt to provide support for the idea the guy doesn’t abuse his dog - and those first 2 videos are not from him (yeah the third is, but it contains a compilation of the dude being sweet to his dog over the years), but I’m sure you’ll discredit those first 2 videos somehow, too.
Look… it’s all right.
Destiny did an awesome takedown of JonTron (who I also once liked in the OG Game Grumps days) being racist a long time ago and he has teamed up with his own former fan Vaush against some actual fascists so I don’t absolutely hate the guy… but seeing you come to his defense when I bring up any of the accusations that have been made against the dude let me know where you stand.
Destiny has dog shit opinions in a lot of cases, but is also someone I can admit to liking having as an ally against the worst people on the internet.
However, Jesus Christ, does Destiny let his personal vendettas completely guide his political compass.
Also, there’s stuff like :
I mean - those 2 are a big yikes for me personally and are the main reason I don’t really follow him.
Now that’s what I’d expect from a Hasan fan, defending accusations of shocking his dog by deflecting to rant about Destiny.
And you’re exactly what I’d expect from a current-era Destiny fan :
Ignoring every single one of the counter-arguments made - even when provided self-evident video supports the claim in order to sidestep the original discussion.
I gave you 2 videos countering the dog shock meme shit - both of non-Hasan YouTubers with sizeable audiences and some measure of credibility, and you ignored them.
Then you only glom onto the last part of my reply where I point out a few of the notable problems of streamer Destiny (who I’m guessing you’re a fan of - given the specific use of “up his ass” you’re perhaps unwittingly regurgitating and how you knew what “sex pest” referred to)… but again - at the same time - you ignore the videos provided that show Destiny saying the N-word and Destiny saying clearly on video that he is ok with 29 year olds having sex with 16 year olds as long as they’ve gone through puberty.
You want to pretend that I’m “deflecting” so it allows you to avoid both my rebuttal as well as criticisms related to the streamer you seem most likely to be a fan of combined into a single reply.
Lmaooo Taylor Lorentz is credible! My sides!
Care to share something more substantive than giggles to discredit a published writer for the Washington Post, NYT, The Daily Beast, or Business Insider?
Or would that somehow count as me deflecting again?
Yeah, let me link you to 40 minutes of glaze content. That’s how we provide evidence for things, right?
Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
Shock: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-educator-et-300 Vibration: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300 https://www.reedog.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
Did you watch the full unedited video of the supposed “shock” including before and after?
Did you see the video of Hasan debunking it? Did anything Hasan said in this debunking come across as seemingly shady or obvious bullshit?
Did you see the video compilation of Hasan loving on the dog a bunch?
Do you see any videos that anyone has been able to find where he reaches with his hand toward her or raises his hand where she winces in fear - in a way that a dog who is hit often by its owner does?
Any other video in the 3 years of streaming literally 12+ hours a day where he’s had her in which you can find even A SINGLE ADDITIONAL MOMENT of obvious self-evident proof of abuse? Another moment where the dog cried out in pain or fear?
No one should ask you to ignore anything, but the fact that you’re scrutinizing whether or not the collar is a shock collar that was swapped out secretly or that he had someone make edits to a video of seems like far more of a stretch than maybe just the idea that some assholes hate the guy and can’t otherwise come up with any legitimate criticisms and figure this was an opportunity to jump in on… don’t you think?
I saw him kick his dog with steel toe boots
Do you have a source for this?
Honestly, it’s so easy to attach a link to anything you comment - so the only reason not to is if you lack the evidence to back up a claim.
It was on the news
Damnit, I forgot what sub-re… I mean… lemmy community I was in.
😉 💋 🍆 💦
No you didn’t
I literally did
Hey, nice copy-pasta. I don’t care for your argument of authority. That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours. In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
lol, please you gotta tell us all - which one are you a fan of?
Ethan, Destiny, Asmongold, or some other half-wit grifter?
I’m an anti-capitalist Anarchist, the other group you people hate ;-)
Suuuuure…
Buddy, I’m not a fan of left-infighting, so - assuming you aren’t actually a shit-stirring disingenuous liar, I don’t hate you.
I really only mostly don’t like the red hat types and the folks who pretend to be left-leaning in order to sow chaos among the ranks who might otherwise band together.
Like hasan
How many times has Hasan villified Anarchists? That unites leftists, right? I don’t advocate against him in US politics. Internationally he’s mostly a piece of shit.
Source or gtfo
Kick me out then.
Source,
You are a liberal
Nope, I’m a leftist radical of the sort who stormed the winter palace during the Russian revolution and was then killed by your fave the Sowiets.
You’re dishonest and historically illiterate
Who are you a fan of?
The Majority Report’s probably one of my favorites, but honestly I try to keep an eye out on a lot of different sources so the chances of me being too deeply attached to any given streamer to the point I begin to deny reality is lessened. I watch Vaush every now and then, Kyle Kulinski, The Serfs, More Perfect Union, Second Thought, the Coolzone Media people like my friend I’ve been arguing with here, and probably a few others I used to watch more, but stopped due to a noticeable shift in the way they started covering topics - like TYT for example.
Booooooo
What’s wrong with Emma and Sam? Other than how much Sam scares that poor Arthur voice actor Steven Crowder?
Racist
The Coolzone media crew I guess? Everyone here is a piece of shit who deserves to burn in the hell they imagine.
😄 Robert from Behind the Bastards or Cody and Katy or what?
What are you even talking about?
I am not aware of any “takedowns” posted by Some More News or any of their other works I literally follow that have said anything bad about the guy.
It’s not like they don’t do takedowns of people either (deservedly so in pretty much every case I’ve ever seen). I’m really curious as to who from Cool Zone says Hasan is a dog abuser.
Yes, YOU care about authority, I do not. I don’t care if they like Hasan, I do not. Do you understand the concept of “being a fan I guess”? That means if you want to nail me down on someone I like that you, another person on an irrelevant platform, probably an American, would recognize, I would say it’s them. Hasan abused his dog.
Leomas : Hasan abused his dog.
Yes, it definitely looks like this guy hates his dog.
Appealing to evidence is not the same as appealing to authority. The guy isn’t perfect, but the idea that he’s either anti-Semitic or an animal abuser - is a psy-op.
I don’t think he’s antisemitic. I’m literally a dude sitting in my apartment in a country in Europe. You calling me a psy-op is really fucking silly. Grow up. (This is an instruction if you’re AI)
Get a job
I’m fine with the one I got, but I’il leave my options open, thanks!
What you care about doesn’t matter, you are completely full of shit
Source on all that?
Who is this
Hasan
Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine. His worship of China. Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar. Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
What has he said about the Ukraine war?
He has consistently stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wrong and is an imperialist endeavor. I haven’t heard him say a good word about Russia or Putin
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen. (I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
You are either incurably stupid or lying