Pic relevant. I’ve tried playing the new Civ games several times, and quickly end up quitting because I find them too overwhelming and find it hard to want to deal with the learning curve.

It occurred to me that part of the problem might be that I was jumping into a very old franchise that has been getting increasingly complicated over the years. Had a hunch I would have better luck with the original, so I went onto one of those play-dos-in-your-browser sites, dove in, and sure enough I am hooked!

Do I know what I’m doing? Not really, but stuff is happening and my civilization is growing, and it’s a good time.

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    I really love this approach and find myself employing it more the older I get. The second game has the best simplicity/fun ratio imo but 4 is also pretty good in that regard.

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    If you enjoy the original Civilization, be sure to try out Freeciv. Basically the original game but with expanded gameplay and updated for compatibility. It’s OpenTTD to Transport Tycoon, if you’re familiar with those games. It also has multiplayer features, and there are sites that run turn-per-day MMO events.

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    Never too late to dicover a classic.

    By sheer chace I came across Alpha Centauri (wikipedia) a sequel to the original Civilization on gog.com. Best purchase ever. Exceptional gameplay. The best 5$ I remember spending.

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      “Don’t go, the drones need you”

      Sequal to civ2 though I think?

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      Alpha Centauri is a game I’ve had since release. Ended up building a dual P3 1Ghz box so I could play without experiencing extreme slow downs during end game when the whole world is visible.

      I still do a playthrough once a twice a year.

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    it’s the opposite for me. I can’t get into the old ones. I should be able to though. I think I understand the game, have some hours playing five and six, but my ADHD gets the better of me with these user interfaces

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    Had to uninstall Unciv from my phone.
    Having a Civ-like app 24/7 available in my pocket isn’t something I can handle…

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    Peaked at Civ 4, been downhill from there.

    If the idea of having Civs that change with the era, but Leaders who stay the same appeals to you…

    Humankind did it better than Civ 7.

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      Humankind had so much potential. I wish they had spent more time fleshing out the late game and fixing their multiplayer code.

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        I mean they have been rolling out updates and fixes since launch, couple of content packs, balance tweaks, reworked a number of systems…

        They’re currently working on a scenario, WW2 Pacific, sounds at least broadly similar to the kinds of scenarios in earlier Civ games, in concept.

        I would hope that after that, they can eventually get to something approaching proper mod tools.

        Yeah, it was a bit of a buggy mess of a launch, no arguing that, but they have been and are still just slowly refining and improving the game.

        Of the seemingly fairly small number of people still playing it… Recent Reviews = Mostly Positive.


        Personally, I don’t know why you’d play any deep strategy game multiplayer.

        Every time I’ve tried multiplayer, in any 4X / Grand Strategy game… everyone is annoyed that I am taking too long, to, you know, evaluate this considerably complex strategy game, with tons of potential upside to taking your time to micro manage things.

        If I am able to take my time, I tend to snowball and by mid or late game, be either winning to the point everyone else quits, or be the only reason why a group of players vs group of AIs game has not totally fallen apart yet.

        But I am one of those apparently rare people who plays single player on the biggest maps and slowest time scales my system can manage…

        … I just have way more enjoyment that way, and I appreciate that the AI in Humankind at least seems to me to be generally better at playing the game than most AIs in most 4X / Grand Strat games, when the player and AIs are on an equal footing in terms of bonuses/maluses.

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          My partner and I love to sit next to each other and play these kinds of games co-op — or mostly co-op since they have a bad habit of going Gandhi in 4X games. It’s us versus the world, as it’s always been. ❤️

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            Ah, well, I’ve never had a partner with any interest in strategy games.

            Foreign concept to me.

            That is a pretty good reason to care about multiplayer tho, lol.

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    I’ve been playing since 1991. My friend had a copy and I was so into it I’d go over to his house to play it when he wasn’t home. Then I got my own copy and I haven’t stopped playing since.

    Well, except that one time where I had to have my wife hide the Civ V disc from me because I couldn’t stop myself.

    I guess what I’m saying is take breaks and go outside, but I know your life will be “just one more turn…” from here on out.

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    Civ 2 is still and always will be the best civ Boat stacking armies for an invasion was the bomb

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      FMV advisors best advisors.

      Especially culture dude. Those anarchy councils were hilarious.

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    I was babysitting the neighbours kids one night and their dad was like “kids are in bed feel free to play civ (III) until we are back”

    I had no idea what he was talking about and he delayed his date night to give me a tutorial. Gave me the CD rom after because it wasn’t needed to play. Great times.

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    I’ve played the first five Civ games and I have fond memories of buying units with diplomats! There’s also FreeCiv which is an open source project that’s very similar to Civ2 but probably supports modern hardware better. It’s been built for android but from what I understand they’re built by third parties so if you’re tech savvy or feeling adventurous you could build it yourself. I played it many years ago in a really rough state where nothing was explained and my own knowledge of Civ 2 was the only thing that made it playable but from what I have heard it’s much better now.

    Fun fact, Civ1 was ported to the SNES and Civ2 was ported to the PlayStation.

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    I spent so much time playing this version, loved it but not the 30min+ turns while waiting to do a move in end game. Depending which version you are playing, you can save before entering one of the random village huts and if you get something you don’t like (attacked) you can reload and it will reroll the hut. Not all versions allowed this

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    Civ 2 is my favorite, plus it has a large collection of fan-made scenarios that cover almost every single sci-fi franchise with some fantasy mods as well, plus lots of historical scenarios that are fun to play.

    There’s even a mod that lets you play mafiosi in a SC2K-like NY:

    It is also a time capsule in who we were twenty odds years ago.

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      Any pointers on how I can play Civ 2? I have a physical copy I inherited from my dad when he passed but I haven’t found it on Steam or GOG and don’t even know where to begin to try and get the physical copy to work.

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    I played more Civ 1 than any of the later games. Civ 2 is also great as is 4 (3 is decent, but I wasn’t nearly as enthralled with it). Every game in the series since has had aspects to it that I disliked enough to keep me from continuing to play and I heard enough bad comments about 7 to not both buying it.

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      I made the mistake of buying 7. “It’s Civ, how bad can it be?” I literally forgot it existed until reading your comment. When I want to play Civ I pull out 6.

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        ALWAYS play one generation behind with Civ because they don’t actually finish the last game until the new one comes out. Civ 7 will probably be fine, in like a year and a half.

        Honestly, one could probably just keep playing Civ 5 without missing much unless there is a specific mechanic in Civ 6 that you enjoy. If you just use it to play risk (i.e. military victories only) Civ IV is probably the best version.

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      Thoughts on Alpha Centauri*?

      While I loved the premise and lore, I felt a bit overwhelmed.

      *The game, but if you wanna share thoughts on the star system, I’m all ears (not literally).

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          Spurred by your comment here, I did a search and Alpha Centauri is presently $2.49 on Steam. Looks like I’ll need to try that now too. 🥳