Remember Ukraine killing journalists documenting war crimes? Andrea Rochelli was the name. He was added on an infamous list of ukranians enemies and killed after that
Bullshit
Yeah they’re nazi shits, but they are also ultranationalist fanatics who say they are ready die for their country. Putin and gang intend to invade. Tight spot. What are the options here?
A: Kick them out and persecute them : resources allocated elsewhere, risk of great loss from the invading russians.
B: Don’t let them participate : not great, pretty much sheltering nazis behind lines.
C: Let the ultranationalist fanatics die for their country like they want to.
“Sure they’re Nazis, but they help us fight Russia!”
-liberals in 1938
They may be Nazis, but they’re our Nazis so that makes it okay
This is such a great illustration of how easily liberals can justify creating a fascist state.
So did their plan work? Are the Nazis in Ukraine weaker or stronger now?
A lot of the Nazis are staying closer to Kiev, leaving conscripts to die on the frontlines. That’s why hundreds of thousands of conscripts have deserted or fled to Belarus.
Imperialism is actually a good thing when the government you’re attacking has bad people in it. Just like Iraq, right guys?
Lol dumb
Oh, was Iraq bad? I was told by shitlibs that the guy in charge of the government who we put there to secure resources and kill leftists had suddenly and overnight become the ultimate villain and we would be greeted as liberators. I was told that if I disagreed with total war I was a
Putin shillSaddm lover. What ever happened to that? Seems like everyone is pretending they never supported it now.Anyway, no time to think back and learn from the past. We have to support this nazi government that we installed to secure resources and kill leftists! These are our nazis, that makes it okay! Operation Paperclip? Idk sounds like some commie conspiracy theory!
Like what’s the common American denominator here dude? Reeeally think about it. Also you don’t know what imperialism is, or you wouldn’t be using a definition that classifies the D Day landings as “imperialist”.
Some bad people in it
“Just a few seig heiling bad apples in the heights of government and military power”
Overall this is a truly shit-tier analogy, try harder. You are the Humvee-driving Iraq war cheerleader in this metaphor.
One bad apple spoils the whole barrel.
This narrative is fucking ridiculous to help justify an unjustifiable war. Putin is a fascist leading a fascist regime in a country that is the farthest thing from USSR. Invaded an independent country, started a modern trench war, because the Ukrainian army has a group that has Nazis? That’s the lamest excuse. All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers. You need to stop parroting fascist propaganda while calling yourselves Leftists.
The current regime in Kiev was installed by a US coup in 2014. Obama even bragged about carrying it out.
All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers.
Evidence of this? It’s hard to prove a 100%, and I doubt AES countries do.
If Ukraine is so independent why does Zelensky has to go regularly to the white house to lick whoever sits there and get embarrassed publicly?
30% of ukranians flew before being conscripted. They guys fighting are the poor ones that dont actually own any apartment in the donbass.
The ones fighting are the nazis because they’re the only ones with the will to fight at this point. Look at how azov ballooned from a battalion to basically the entire military
You are an American, or you only get info on socials. Read about Ukranian war a bit, how it could have ended in few months, how the end of the war would have hurt american interests. Stat here, but eurpean newspapers were pretty informing at that time. https://www.intellinews.com/fresh-evidence-suggests-that-the-april-2022-istanbul-peace-deal-to-end-the-war-in-ukraine-was-stillborn-321468/
Please guys stop thinking about good and bad guys in politics or wars. Start thinking.
“Independent country” lol no, current gov in Ukraine was installed by US backed coup, is an obvious puppet for our foreign policy, removing it is a good thing regardless of who does it
Remeber how many cia bases Biden could install there. Biden son was getting 1million per month to dont work.
I love how libs have no framework for analyzing why things happen so you just end up combining words you’ve heard before into a salad. Entertain me, tell me why you think this war started.
All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers
“Everyone has fascists”
A) wrong, pure projection
B) And do those groups run the entire government?
Americans are mostly one dimensional. They really believe they are the good guys fighting to export freedom and democracy in the world. They are mostly ultras, not an once of auto critic for their team. They are always the good guys. Always. It is irritating. Anyway, zelensky government was a coup. The guy is right.
If you say “fascist” often enough, reality will bend to your will. You are a IRL jedi, controlling the world with your mind. Keep doing it.
uhm… excuse me good sir but this is russian propaganda. don’t call my wholesome ukrainian army ‘nazis’ they’re just small chunguses and lowk like the avengers saving themselves from thanos.
Andrea rochelli was killed because he was documenting ukranian war crimes. This is nazi shit.
the meme refers to the elements of the army that see themselves in OUN & NS tradition.
lowk like the avengers saving themselves from thanos
i always imagine the nazis w super hereo tattoos and the most clueless out of anyone.
Don’t forget it’s also a bit like Hogwarts students fighting the Deatheaters.
No wonder the libs love Graham Platner, just more goodies for them at the cost of the world
Should be also third hand with Graham Plattner, but it would be lib too.
Wait, why are liberals represented by the black arm? Are you implying that all liberals are black /j
“We originally had both as black people but the conservatives lynched the other one.”
It’s Justin Trudeau’s arm at a Halloween party.
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Libs also be like: “Anyone criticizing Israel is antisimetic” 🤝 “Anyone criticizing Ukraine is a Russian bot”
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“Russian War of Aggression” lol this is like when southerners call the civil war “the war of northern aggression”. Just absolute cope to pretend they didn’t do everything possible to start it. I guess nazis doing ethnic cleansing isn’t worth stopping to you, huh?
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“Umm no actually it’s the russians who are nazis, not the nazis! You’re a paid bot for remembering things! You’re not a real person! I’m not a fascist btw”
Always projection with you nazis, huh?
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so the USA is a nazi state?
Holy shit, you’re finally starting to understand
so EU is Nazi?
Yes, asshole, the bloc that has supported Palestinian genocide to the hilt, imprisoned anti-genocide protestors, and armed Ukranian nazis in a campaign of ethnic cleansing that saw them murder 13,000 civilians in the Donbas Republics…are fucking nazis. I’m so glad you’re starting to get it.
The key distinction with Ukraine is that the Banderites actually are in control of the state, and the various neo-Nazi groups are empowered by said state. Every state has Nazi groups, but Ukraine stands out in that said Nazi groups took power in a coup in 2014.
The EU is also fascist, as imperialism is declining they are surging to the right to force austerity at home. Same with the US Empire. The west is overwhelmingly fascist.
Yes, the US is a nazi state, it directly served as inspiration to Hitler, actually.
“Saying that Ukraine is a Nazi regime” == stating an inconvenient fact.
“Anyone who points out that I’m supporting a nazi regime is a both a treacherous Russian and also not a real person”
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They saw Israel do it and have the same imperial power goading them.
“America can’t be racist because they had a black president”
Headass
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List of sources: https://lemmy.ml/post/40735900/22934447
Like at this point you’re just desperate not to admit to yourself that the same media that tried to get you to support genocide in Palestine successfully tricked you into supporting nazis in Ukraine
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Step one: ask for evidence Step two: claim you don’t need evidence
Slave workers? What?
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Even if we ignore what he’s doing in Palestine, he’s open hitlerite, just more out of the closet than you.
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and that a people with its own culture and language have the rights to have nation.
This is why Donetsk and Luhansk seceded from Kiev, though, as they are primarily culturally Russian, and Kiev, post-Euromaidan, began suppressing the Russian language. If you genuinely hold the values you do, then you should support the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics against Kiev.
“Sure he’s doing a racially motivated lebensraum genocide but he’s not a nazi” lol ok fuck off now with your nazi apologia
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Do you get out-argued by “bots” often? You find yourself in this position a lot, flailing with weak meaningless redditisms and telling yourself that the person proving you wrong isn’t a real human? You’re pathetic dude.
Yep, you can’t escape from us libbie!
Better delete your account and return to Reddit/Bluesky/wherever your lib friends hangs around, so you don’t get Ruzzian and Chyneze disinformation!
