• _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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    19 hours ago

    my local farmers use immigrant workers on starvation wages to harvest their crops. is that what you mean by supporting the local economy?

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      18 hours ago

      I live in farm country, and pay for farm labor is usually very fair. It’s seasonal work in remote locations, but the pay isn’t bad at all. Also most the migrant farm laborers only stay for the season, that is if it isn’t too hostile for them to try working the season in the first place.

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        8 hours ago

        Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay.

        I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage.

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        18 hours ago

        Your personal experience where you live is not how it is everywhere and is not everyones experience.

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          17 hours ago

          Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one

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            17 hours ago

            The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.”

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              17 hours ago

              Two local people shared different local experiences and I’m not sure why you think either is more valid than the other.

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                16 hours ago

                Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that.

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                  15 hours ago

                  There are some places where they are not ethical.

                  There are some places where they are.

                  They’re both actually saying the same thing. I don’t understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other.

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              17 hours ago

              You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.”

              Uhhh…can you point to where I said that?

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                  12 hours ago

                  …can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn’t happen, either.

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                17 hours ago

                The other person started with “my local” you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it’s not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children.

                You didn’t directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is.

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                  17 hours ago

                  I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn’t what I took away from it

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                    15 hours ago

                    My bad I misread the name. And that’s fine to disagree, but when I read “I live in farm country and this is what actually happens…” I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn’t.

                    In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person’s statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say.