Sue the air while you are at it for carrying the electromagnetic waves of bits of internet.
Sounds like the authors guild needs to read a book about how the Internet works
This is equivalent to asking the road construction workers and engineers to be held accountable for those that break the speed limit
No, that would be if they tried to assign liability to Bell Labs. ISPs have traffic logs and are assigning IP addresses to pirates. I’d say it’s closer to holding Hertz accountable when people who rented cars break the speed limit. Still a terrible idea though.
But I’m concerned how they can request this with a straight face, since we’ve seen wholesale abuse of the DMCA since its inception. Ask anybody who has a YouTube channel with more than 5k subscribers about the false reports they’ve received from companies claiming to own someone else’s music. People are going to have their access cut off based on fake reports.
ISPs route data packets between IP addresses; they don’t get to see the content of what I send/receive (it’s encrypted), and they don’t get domain info without deep packet inspection, because I don’t use their DNS servers.
It’s more like sometimes the city will put up speed cameras and ALPRs — but does that make them responsible for speeders?
You have a point about the DMCA though; I’ve had videos monetized by a third party because of music I wrote and performed myself — turned out, the company was stealing MY music and I got dinged for it.
To be clear, I’m not saying it’s a good argument. OP just grossly mischaracterized it.
The main issue with this is that it would either A. Be massively open to abuse in the same way that YouTube is now, but would come with greater penalties in that you can lose Internet access. Or B. Force your ISP to do a copyright analysis every time they receive a report.
Every illegally downloaded book is a lost sale
This is straight out of 2007. What an awful position to take.
And that’s fucking wild about someone fighting you over your own music. The DMCA is a fucking joke.
Then how do they know what movie I’m torrenting if my VPN is not on?
The rights holder is seeding and records your IP address, then sends a C&D to your ISP, who then notify you about it.
The rights holder is seeding
So, the one with the right to share the thing, is sharing it themselves.
I’d say that makes it the correct source to download. Even better than the DRM’d sources that says you only have limited access.I’m guessing it wouldn’t be a valid legal argument, but I liked the thought experiment of claiming that it can’t be piracy if the rights holder is intentionally publicly sharing the content. Like trying to charge trick-or-treaters for theft when they took candy out of the bowl you left out with a “Free!” sign attached.
usually, they don’t actively seed, they are just part of the swarm, and request content from you. And if that content is part of e.g.their movie, they get you for distributing the movie.
We can always torrent on I2P if push comes to shove guys
This is fair. When they are committing a crime, they should be held accountable.
But they are not, they are common carriers, in the same way FedEx is not responsible for shipping a package that is secretly a pipe bomb.
Bit of a stretch the way this is angled…
