What does Oracle actually do?
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  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dkEnglish
    2·
    50 minutes ago

    Much like Vampires, no sane person should ever invite Oracle into their home: Both are bloodsucking parasitical leeches, and you’ll never be rid of the affliction.

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    9 hours ago

    I cannot imagine any business leader crunching the numbers and concluding it’s better to stay with Oracle. I would order an all-hands-on-deck effort to rejigger the company database needs to get out from under these parasites.

    Only explanation I got it that they are unwilling to stall current projects and/or hire more backend devs while sorting it out. And yes, I am well aware it’s a monstrous task, even for a small company.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      7 hours ago

      It’s cheaper in the long run, which is probably about 5 years, maybe less. Those fees are astronomical.

      In fact, I’d be willing to donate some time to help a small business transition to Postgres.

  • potatoguy@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
    47·
    11 hours ago

    Oracle makes the worst database system ever imagined by anyone ever. Can’t even insert multiple rows in the same statement, you have to put multiple insert statements and Oracle sues you for dreaming about any other database.

      • potatoguy@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
        201·
        8 hours ago

        Oracle sues for everything, when they sue you, they can ask for their payment to be related to the total employees of the company, to take that as users of the Oracle Database (trademark)(copyright)(shat my pants) or Java (do I need to repeat?). Yeah, they sue for EVERYTHING.

        • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          4 hours ago

          Oracle licenses software by CPU (or at least they did). But not in the way you think, they mean by discrete logical CPUs. So if you virtualize one of their apps and give the VM 4 CPUs, do you need four licenses? No, since it could run on any of the CPUs in the host, you need to buy however many that is.

          I went to look for more info on this and couldn’t find anything reliable, but I did find an article from Amazon saying that if you run something like this in AWS, you need enough licenses to cover the entire goddamn AWS zone.

          • Kairos@lemmy.todayEnglish
            1·
            27 minutes ago

            Everything that Oracle makes really feels like they got the idea from a random engineer they stuk up on their lunch break.

        • Kairos@lemmy.todayEnglish
          12·
          8 hours ago

          Can I get an article/source about this? I’m in the mood to be mad about Oracle

          • multiplewolves@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            6 hours ago

            I can chime in here with “my former employer hired a full-time lawyer after being sued by Oracle over something trivial”. Company of less than 200. They settled and they still have at least one permanent legal staffer.

          • potatoguy@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
            81·
            8 hours ago

            The video glances at this, but this happened where I work, so I can’t give the direct sources for the case against the place I work, but if even the Oracle employees talk about the draconic bullshit Oracle does, imagine what happens to the companies/governments they sue.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
      33·
      11 hours ago

      Techs like to deride sales and managers for incompetence. But Oracle is proof that salesmanship and suits can take garbage and make billions.

      I remember around 1990 when Oracle handled their tech problems by making it illegal to review their product. ( You had to purchase their product to use it or be sued. And the purchase agreement required that you not publish a review of the product without their approval or be sued.)

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        I would argue that selling a product that engineers need to create and maintain at great cost to the company (both monetary and in terms of frustration etc) and customer relations is in fact incompetence.

        or at least that’s how I see if from my own dealings with the sales guy at work. “okay yes I see you have an idea, but can we nail down a product definition, describe where we add value, and identify how it is different than these two other globally established products on the market right now?” nope, all he could do was be a little bitch about it. apparently he had customers lined up, though.

  • Arancello@aussie.zoneEnglish
    25·
    11 hours ago

    SAP does this too. I watched as a ‘license enforcement’ mob conjured up an ‘ indirect user ‘ concept to charge a top 10 ( in our country) client $10million for misusing SAP software for payroll and finance. The group was called Global Customer Assistance or some similar euphemism. It was all bogus. The client immediately started a program to rip out all SAP software. To my knowledge this is now complete. This customer abuse program was started when a number of senior execs moved from Oracle to SAP in the US.