whats wrong with ml?
The users
Take a look and find out for yourself.
I don’t get it. Where is loss?
Openbsd?
Whats the issue with ml?
The ml stands for Marxist-Leninist, and the admin (and creator of Lemmy) named themself after a genocidal warlord
That certainly is a take on jean-jacques dessalines who led the haitian revolution aganist slavery after the french betrayal of toussaint louverture.
It’s full of whackjobs that love far-left authoritarian regimes. They’re doing the left a huge disservice because they’re bat shit crazy.
With claims like this, you make it very easy to dismiss what you’re saying, but given that I kinda can guess what you mean if I give you the biggest benefit of the doubt humanly imaginable, are you referring to the type of people who say shit like “we should form a party” completely oblivious to the way their own politcal system works and the fact that it would only ensure that the only path to escaping the regime was sealed shut?
No, he’s right. I know, it’s hard to believe, but these people really are batshit crazy. We’re talking stetements like “Stalin did nothing wrong”, “China is right in killing the Uigures” and “Ukraine is former UDSSR territory therefore Russia is not invading”.
Today I got a “no russia is freeing Ukraine from nazis and the genocide that Ukraine was doing to russia” some fucking how lol
“China is right in killing the Uigures
I am in China right now, plan to go back to urumqi in a few weeks, just wanted you to know this is some “Portland is a warzone”-tier deviation from reality. Literally anyone can just go there.
Can you provide some examples
You could check the MeanwhileOnGrad community that documents every bit of it, but your instance admins blocked it on your instance to keep you all in the dark and shield themselves from accountability. You’ll have to view it from a different instance.
Popped over and saw a post saying a user was praising the Uyghur genocide. Read the post and instead it was a guy saying that China was successfully deradicalising terrorists…
So yeah. No ones saying “I love that China is genociding muslims!”
Just block the instance, makes you happier and the trolls are left without food.
Piefed and .world the ultimate lost Redditor starterpack.
You forgot “Joined 2 years ago”
Hey!
You’re on .world though.
That’s how we know
I dont get this
They think being against authoritarians means you’re a Reddit-style neoliberal.
Must be exhausting to continously maintain your campaign against .ml
Why not just block and move on with your life?
Well they don’t have a job so to them, starting weird fights about instances is their job.
Why comment at all, wouldn’t it be easier to block and move on with your life?
You see, that’s the fun of all this!
This comment section is solid gold. You’ll be able to come back and harvest new posts any time you want until they lock it, if they don’t it’s gonna go for days and just pick up steam.
Great job my man!
Up row: python (?) openBSD
Low row: (?) lemmy
Okey
Did you read the subtitle? xD
OpenBSD
Every time I see an anti-.ml meme I wonder, why are people so worried about people seeing .ml content? If they’re jerks, wouldn’t you want people to stumble into .ml and find out?
Anti-leftism is an all consuming, load-bearing pillar of fascism. Since .ml is tangentially leftist aligned…
Authoritarians are not leftists LMAO
Before I found out, I would have preferred to find out naturally. After I did stumble in and find out, I wished somebody had warned me.
Oh poor thing, you’ll recover from the trama someday.
Roughly in about the timeframe you would remove the pointy tree branch from prostate that’s making you such a condescending cunt. 😢 sorry if I don’t hold my breath
During the Reddit exodus, there were lots of complaints about left wing extremism. Most of them were landing on ml, grad or hexbear. This isn’t a good thing in the long run, so the bad press is necessary; otherwise this place risks being branded as “tankie HQ” before we can get some real traffic here.
better than landing in fascist, neo-reddit instances like .world.
Tbf this place was programmed by volunteer “tankies.”
Left wing extremists are much better than the right wing variety, yes?
They’re the same picture.
You need glasses
No one “worries” about seeing it. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.
capitalism causes all problems in the universe
Don’t you just love when they tell on themselves?
When people post comments like yours or memes like the above it really comes off as defending capitalism and the status quo…
You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
It’s not about the economic system, it’s the constant china glazing
It absolutely is about the economic system, and the “china glazing” is a direct response to US propaganda
china glazing" is a direct response to US propaganda
Cringe
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
You can be anti-capitalist without sucking China’s scrotum.
ah, classic ml. Genocide deniers
.ml is just the latest designated “tankie” instance. So far it’s the third one. Once .world defederates from .ml, the same people who currently hate .ml will designate another “tankie” instance to hate.
People designated .ml as a tankie instance for very good reason: the admins of .ml have repeatedly shown to be pro-authoritarian.
For years now I’ve seen incessant gaslighting from tankies pretending that “tankie” is some catch-all term baselessly thrown around like “woke”. However, I’ve pretty much exclusively seen the term “tankie” used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships.
There was a few people calling dbzer0 a tankie instance, when it’s an anarchist instance.
Yeah we’re somehow Tankies for wanting democrats to try harder and saying we need to do more then vote.
I don’t support authoritarian regimes, but I get called a tankie plenty by centrists who hate that I don’t support the authoritarian regime that their wing of the party sold weapons to.
“Tankie” is just something the genocide wing calls people who disagree with their only policy.
ah, then my impressions are biased, since I haven’t heard that term outside of Lemmy.
There’s pretty much only one person I know irl that calls themselves a “centrist”.
So .world is extremely anti free speech? Is there an easy way I can block all of .world from my feed then?
This guide is wrote up for those who have a hard time banning .ml and constantly removed about being able to see our content. It could be used to ban .world if you want i guess.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
Yes, you can block it in settings.
Interesting way of reasoning: “They are bad because they block stuff they don’t want to read, so I block them because what they do is stuff I don’t want to read.”
Shouldn’t you be blocking yourself if you follow that way of reasoning?
Free speech means that you can speak your opinion freely without the state (country…) punishing you for it.
Free speech doesn’t mean I have to listen to/read everything.
And yes, you can block the whole of lemmy.world easily, if you want to.
Didn’t ask what you wish I meant by “free speech” or what you’re glad I don’t mean by it.
Would thank you for answering what I asked if you didn’t waste my time answering (with fucked up wording) those 2 un-asked questions first
Wow you really wasted 5 seconds reading a lemmy reply
Why do you want to block an instance? You don’t like free speech?
People who rant about “free speech” typically mean “hate speech” but don’t have the balls to just call it that.
There’s a lot of users there who would very much prefer that no one to their left (and only their left) should be permitted to speak.
Your reply comes form there but will probably be the last post I see from there because I’m gonna go ahead and block the instance. Unless that still lets replies come through (fine with me, main feed is more my focus)
Oh look, someone else to block.
Do you announce every button you press?
“Hitting the reply button below your comment!”
“Typing my comment!”
“Clicking Reply!”
Yes they do, that’s how they operate. It’s just showing off they don’t like new viewpoints.
Another!
Nobody cares who you block
Thanks for the laugh.
Why do so many tankies hang out on a Mali top level domain?
Marxism-Leninism
Wait… Is this actually why they chose the “ml” domain?
Its actually because it was free at the time.
Yeah. I expected it to be machine learning related at first.
Asked an older colleague what he associated with ml. Straight to marxist-leninism. (To the east of the curtain)
how I look while typing replies:
Hell yeah, spread it out for everyone to see.
Noice
I can’t tell whether a meme featuring a character from a Chinese game company is part of the joke or coincidental.
Either way, I upvote for Silver Wife.
Except it’s true. Not a fan of tankies or marxism
It’d be worthwhile opening up your mind to Marxism. Tankies are kinda like the KKK of conservativism
I know about marxism it’s not for me. I like democracy and capitalism and I don’t even benefit from it much, but I just prefer it to be this way.
That’s kinda the problem though. Preferring it to be this way isn’t a realistic thing. Capitalism will end in favour of something else eventually; whether it be in our lifetimes or 500 years from now. That’s what Marxism explains.
Similarly, Marxism aims to achieve MORE democracy than we currently have. You’re only aware of the Leninist variants. You don’t actually know as much as you think.
Naw again I understand it I just prefer the way the government is now. I don’t think marxism is the solution or it will happen in our lifetimes but I agree it might in the future
personally I prefer marxist/anarchist spaces, not a fan of liberals or conservatives
That’s great for you, you can enjoy your commie and anarchy. I’m just gunna chill over here.
Lemmy.ml is the devil tempting good leftists to sin. They pretend to be leftists, but the admins are transphobic. It’s a trap designed to trick leftists into supporting transphobia. That way they won’t get to go to heaven.
You were on the right track but then fell off
Lol yeah you sound like a jesus fan, physically incapable of understanding anything outside the context of sin and damnation
I was made a moderator here after calling out cis shitters being transphobic in our trans comm; the only admin we have beef with is Nutomic, the rest have been fine.
Have you considered that you defending an instance that defends a transphobe means you are defending a transphobe? Because Jesus Christ (transmasculine, He/Him) would have considered that if He were in your position, and He wouldn’t do it. It’s a sin.
I’ll happily go to hell if the alternative is ceding a space I’m in to transphobes without a fight tyvm
Well no, both of those things are supporting transphobes, the only difference is whether you’re supporting Nutomic’s transphobia or someone else’s. The true alternative is to quit lemmy.ml and not be a transphobe supporter at all.
I guess your argument is the best thing to do is to slowly reform the space by working under a transphobe, like that’s ever worked in history.
is your actual position that trans people should give transphobes free reign in any and every space they want, because to contest that would be actually supporting them?
My actual position is that Dessalines should tell Nutomic to either stop being a transphobe or get lost. And since Dessalines won’t do either, lemmy.ml is a lost cause and should be defederated by every trans-respecting instance until it’s stuck in its own little transphobic bubble with lemmygrad and hexbear. The rest of us get on with our lives and slowly move over to Piefed like Ada is doing with her community. Eventually lemmy.ml is about as influential as Truth Social or Raddle or Digg and Nutomic dies at the ripe old age of 90, having learned nothing and lost all relevance. In the intervening decades a worldwide communist revolution has destroyed capitalism, so Nutomic is entitled to free healthcare in his battle with cancer/parkinsons/dementia, because I support liberty and equality for all, even wankers.
That’s what I think we should do.
Facts
Jesus Christ is a fictional character and the logical end conclusion of your points is:
“Transphobes decide where everyone else can go. First we wait to see where transphobes go, and then we stay away from those places, because we want the transphobes to have free ownership of whatever they choose and not be bothered by anyone”
Nutomic is one of the two lead developers and owners of lemmy.ml. If using and defending a platform owned by a transphobe is brave resistance, why don’t you go to Truth Social or Xitter instead? It would save us having to hear your silly arguments.
I use X because I’m not banned there. I won’t bother with Truth Social knowing they’d ban me
Well there we go, don’t we
Oh gawd that is rich, do authoritarians pay you for these sick memes!?
Pick up that can…
I actually unlocked the ultimate grift: getting on the payroll for every foreign government all at once in return for my single digit posts per day on obscure internet forum for linux nerds.
Me, I’m not on anybody’s payroll. But I’m trying to be. Once I build up my modlog enough as a freelancer, the plan is to print it out and mail it to the nearest Chinese embassy so I can finally quit my day job.
"Thanks for joining us for the Militant Lemmy 2025 awards show! It is going to be a great year for autocrats boys and girls. A special thanks to all our disenfranchised westerners, remember without your misguided support tyrants everywhere might feel unwelcome.
For our first award this year we are celebrating the most hypocritical poster. We are not just talking about any old conservative hypocrite here, we are talking about people so hypocritical they don’t even remember what they actually agreed or disagreed with to begin with. People who are so contradictory they make doublethink seem like a fun meditative practice.
Alright, the votes are in. This is going to be a wild one folks! This years winner is none other than DIVA!!!"
See, this proves even if you are a lonely pusher of shitty propaganda you to can get recognized for your efforts. Congratulations, you really do deserve it.
Idk why you call my hypocritical or disingenuous, I’m actually very ideologically consistent and earnest, I just like to joke around as well.
that aside, I don’t need your recognition when I already have like 12 different paychecks rolling in
Why do you care about tankies so much?
You can just let people be wrong. It costs nothing.
They’re obviously hardliners to the point of comedic effect but why do you care so much to argue?
Do you really expect someone who’s so set in their opinions as to join .ml to read your comment and just go, “oh damn, guess I’ll just stop believing in the things I believe in and believe in entirely different things”?
Do you genuinely think you’re so convincing or do you just enjoy a good pissing contest?
Why do you care about tankies so much?
You can just let people be wrong. It costs nothing.
Well… when they’re for example spreading disinformation and propaganda for Russia, that can cost a lot, even if not immediately, or not to you personally. As someone from a small nation that has a long history of being attacked by Russia, I’ll ask: what do you think ultimately happens when more and more people start to believe they have the right to invade their neighbors…? I’d rather not just let paid trolls and simple idiots spread Kreml’s disinformation to weaken “the west”, and justify taking over Ukraine and attacks on other countries as well
Do you believe that engaging in arguments will change that? If anything your helping them by boosting their visibility via engagement metrics.
Changing a tankie’s mind with arguing is a sisyphean task.
Well… when they’re for example spreading disinformation and propaganda for Russia, that can cost a lot
Yes, I agree, spreading Russia’s misinformation should be combated and illegal.
We need to immediately close and fine Facebook, X and Reddit.
Tankies are the worst of the worst. They ban people for nonsense, brigade people with alts, and are devoid of candor. I have talked with hundreds of people who have been mistreated and abused by them including myself.
What I say here has no bearing on anything and I am not stopping anyone from doing anything. I have no power, I am not a mod, and I don’t have alts.
I was literally having a fun fantasy in the face of someone that is without a doubt disingenuous. It is taking it to a higher place beyond what is going on. Absurdity meets absurdity. I get you don’t get it and that is okay.
Lol pure projection
I have no love for tankies. It just seemed like a lot of effort and mental energy went into that so I thought there may be some interesting lore there.
You do know that crazy people can believe in and spread conspiracy theories for free…
So not liking .ml makes you checks notes a conspiracy theorist. Got it.
Your reading comprehension needs work.
Your probably right.
Do you people have any idea just how much signage costs? It way cheaper to have everything figure out it’s own danger sign.
