You know, it’s like you’re walking through the forest, enjoying its beauty, and then you don’t notice how a hungry bear attacks you, even though you were warned about it.

What a shame, when the trap snaps it will be very painful…

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    I don’t feel this analogy works, when you think about it. What’s the “trap”? People trying to control what others say? That’s always been the case. And if I knew about it decades ago, I should have… what? Not expressed myself freely? Nah, fuck that.

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      my interpretation, at least:

      the trap is the government (the US’ in this example, perhaps) promising freedom of speech/unlawful search and seizure; but then terrorizing and inflicting violence upon those whose opinions they disagree with, but much more regularly and openly.

      Those trapped think they are protected from such retaliation because they have ignored/permitted/trivialized the systemic violence against marginalized groups that has been prevalent for centuries. They ignore the signs of their country’s propensity for fascism, and its intentional increase of brazenly hateful rhetoric and policies.

      But they are by no means exempt, and many won’t realize that until it’s too late.

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      It’s an allusion to chat control, banning books, etc. No good person wants that kind of control or power. But they are always misled into thinking that it’s necessary somehow to protect the public or protect the children. The sort of people, they think such control and legislation would be levied against. Actively seek it out, to wield it against the people who would hinder them.

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    I feel like the Fediverse has even more thought police than regular social media.

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      Your instance is the one censoring words like b#tch and more. So if you feel that way thats why.

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        That’s not fair. Tankies also censor anything even slightly critical of authoritarianism.

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          Unless it occurs within a “western” sphere of influence. You can do the same or worse in the east. Because they’re hypocrites.

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          It depends on what you’re after from a server.

          There’s region specific ones, like the server I’m on just now (feddit.uk) being UK themed. That means when I look at my “Local” feed it’s generally filled with content specific to the UK. There’s others for Canada, Netherlands, Denmark, etc, probably US states as well I would assume.

          Or maybe you’re after a server with a political ideology. Lemmy.ml is for Marxist-Leninists, dbzer0 and slrpnk.net are for anarchists, and there’s even a MAGA themed server but I forget its name just now and don’t care to go searching.

          There’s also servers that aim to be just a general purpose, jack of all trades master of none kind of place. Your server, Lemmy.world probably being the biggest of those. It has a bit of everything and doesn’t really specialise in one particular topic. Probably the closest to a clone of Reddit.

          There’s also servers that are supposed to be safe spaces for particular groups of people. For example, blahaj.zone is for LGBTQ+ people (or those just fans of cuddly shark toys).

          As markz said, have a browse of this site to see all the servers and see which fits best with what you want from a link aggregator site. There’s nothing stopping you having accounts on different servers for different purposes either. They all have different rules, content, and block lists so the experience on each is unique.

          Good luck exploring, welcome to the Fediverse, and have fun!

          https://join-lemmy.org/instances

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          Unfortunately the only way to change instance is to make a new account there.

          For example, sopuli.xyz is relatively large, uncontroversial, and well maintained. https://join-lemmy.org/ has a list of all(?) instances and a thing that lets you filter them by topic and language.

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            There’s option to export your config and import it to another instance, that lessens the burden somewhat, but yeah it is still a new account.

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        I wouldn’t say most. But if a competition was held they’d definitely be a contender for sure.

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      I mean, kinda. in the Fediverse anyone can set up a town and appoint themselves sheriff. More towns (instances) -> more sheriffs. And because the power is more distributed, there are more checks, which has a side effect of making discussions about power (and the abuse thereof) noisier. If it makes you feel any more at peace with it, the perpetual argument about norms and rules is the only alternative to having a single faction seize control and enforce their rules, so anything that is being argued about in public (and not censored) hasn’t been fully captured by a single thought-policing entity.

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        100% It’s why I avoid communities on your instance. No instance is perfect. Certainly not the one I’m on. But because AP is decentralized and democratized. We can associate with whomever we consent. Don’t have to be subject to authoritarians right(Reddit) or left(ML). And that’s wonderful.

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        I don’t know much about Lemmy and I’m new here, but on Mastodon there seem to be just an illusion of federation because it’s actually ruled by peer-pressure. Instance A doesn’t like instance B so it defederates from it (absolutely fair), then it goes and tell instance C to also defederate from B else its going to tell instance D, E and F to defederate from C, and so on… remember when people bullied mastodon.lol admin into closing his 18k members instance just because he didn’t want to ban users for liking the Harry Potter game?

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          I’ve never used mastodon and I’m not familiar with mastodon.lol. I’m fairly new to federated platforms in general tbh just figuring it out as I go along. I tend to browse all instances but I made an account on lemmy.ml because that was the one that was recommended to me on reddit. might join a different instance at some point if I find lemmy.ml to be unsatisfactory at some point e.g. if I find out they defederated from some instance I am interested in.

          The peer pressure thing… I mean yeah, people voice their opinions, disagree, and if they can’t reconcile they defederate. It’s messy but I think that’s kind of the point. The only alternative to peer relationships is some kind of asymmetry.