You know, it’s like you’re walking through the forest, enjoying its beauty, and then you don’t notice how a hungry bear attacks you, even though you were warned about it.
What a shame, when the trap snaps it will be very painful…
You know, it’s like you’re walking through the forest, enjoying its beauty, and then you don’t notice how a hungry bear attacks you, even though you were warned about it.
What a shame, when the trap snaps it will be very painful…
I mean, kinda. in the Fediverse anyone can set up a town and appoint themselves sheriff. More towns (instances) -> more sheriffs. And because the power is more distributed, there are more checks, which has a side effect of making discussions about power (and the abuse thereof) noisier. If it makes you feel any more at peace with it, the perpetual argument about norms and rules is the only alternative to having a single faction seize control and enforce their rules, so anything that is being argued about in public (and not censored) hasn’t been fully captured by a single thought-policing entity.
100% It’s why I avoid communities on your instance. No instance is perfect. Certainly not the one I’m on. But because AP is decentralized and democratized. We can associate with whomever we consent. Don’t have to be subject to authoritarians right(Reddit) or left(ML). And that’s wonderful.
I don’t know much about Lemmy and I’m new here, but on Mastodon there seem to be just an illusion of federation because it’s actually ruled by peer-pressure. Instance A doesn’t like instance B so it defederates from it (absolutely fair), then it goes and tell instance C to also defederate from B else its going to tell instance D, E and F to defederate from C, and so on… remember when people bullied mastodon.lol admin into closing his 18k members instance just because he didn’t want to ban users for liking the Harry Potter game?
I’ve never used mastodon and I’m not familiar with mastodon.lol. I’m fairly new to federated platforms in general tbh just figuring it out as I go along. I tend to browse all instances but I made an account on lemmy.ml because that was the one that was recommended to me on reddit. might join a different instance at some point if I find lemmy.ml to be unsatisfactory at some point e.g. if I find out they defederated from some instance I am interested in.
The peer pressure thing… I mean yeah, people voice their opinions, disagree, and if they can’t reconcile they defederate. It’s messy but I think that’s kind of the point. The only alternative to peer relationships is some kind of asymmetry.
dot ml was the first sort of the original hub of the content aggregator part of the Fediverse. Designed and populated initially by political hypocrites who’s behavior and unpopular opinions saw them banned from everywhere else. But that hasn’t really been the case anymore for a while now.
Better part of a decade on and there are a number of other software stacks doing the same thing. And plenty more instances outside ML serving content to the larger Fediverse. Put it this way. If you avoid politics like the plague and only use communities on ML for extremely niche, tech, or fandom like things. You’ll probably have an okay experience. However, if you ever have a moment where you are forced to shore up your reality and beliefs against theirs. They’ll come down on you like a ton of bricks and most likely ban you. No matter the evidence you have or your good faith. Their reality is tenuous, and can not stand scrutiny.
The problem being that it isn’t even the mods over there. It’s the admins ruling with an iron fist in favour of their ideology. Contrasted with dot world, recently there was a broughaha about a moderator of a large community there, being reactionary and immature. When someone pressed the admins of the instance, whether or not they agreed with it or supported it. They said no. And left it at that. Because the individual hadn’t violated the rules and their fellow moderators hadn’t asked for it. It wasn’t their place to remove them for being unpopular. Conversely if you persist in disagreeing with CCP, FSB, or DPRK propaganda. No matter how civil or polite you are ml admins WILL find a reason to ban.
Interesting. Didn’t know that this instance had that reputation. Is there anyone out there archiving and cataloguing removed posts / comments across instances? I’d be curious to see some data around this. Would be a fun NLP project to try to identify who might be running certain instances based on the ideological bent of their censorship interests. Could be fun to try to parse out state propagandists from the religious extremists, from the single-issue warriors, from the non-ideological power-trippers, etc.