• juliebean@lemmy.zip
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    17 hours ago

    if you feel that way, i gotta ask, why are you here, instead of reddit, or facebook, or something?

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    21 hours ago

    🙄

    Confusionism still has a bright future ahead of it…

    You should learn the definition of decentralization, and its application in practice.

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      21 hours ago

      Decentralization? That’s just a fancy word for chaos and the bourgeoisie want that. Centralized power is the only path to true communism. Some of us understand that

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        21 hours ago

        I feel like I’m talking to a 12-year-old who’s just discovered decentralization…

        You’re on a decentralized network, using an email address that also uses a decentralized network, and you’re talking about chaos?

        Pathetic.

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      21 hours ago

      Centralization is the only way to smash the bourgeoisie and build a truly socialist society

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        And who gets to control this new central government?

        Will they get to live in lavish accommodations? Will they get to live a standard of living higher than the rest of the proletariat?

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          Marxism has never been about equality of outcome, Marx himself opposed “equalitarians” in his time. Socialism as it exists in real life recognizes the difference between more diffucult, dangerous, risky, etc labor, and often came with higher pay or reduced working hours. The disparity in socialist countries has always been far less than in capitalist countries, even countries that are still socialist but maintain markets at this stage in development like the PRC and Vietnam.

          I don’t like the way OP is framing it, though. Centralization gives connotations of removing bottom-up input, which is why I like the term collectivization more. Having all of production under the collective banner of the whole society, and resolving the obstacles towards such a society, is the main process of advancing socialism towards communism. This means centralization in that it reduces private and cooperative ownership to nothing, but it also retains room for local sovereignty and input that ladders upwards.