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Ah yes, whenever someone breaks through empire programming something MUST be “wrong with their brain” 😁
I have no idea where this mass of pro-Israel lemmy users are. I must not be federated with whoever you’re talking about
The power mod that runs all of .worlds political coms banned me for reporting a Gaza genocide denier.
Lemmy is starting to feel like reddit after all
only if you stay with the shitty instances
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This the most disgustingly self centred and myopic comment I have ever seen in my life. Westerners genuinely don’t conceive of foreigners as human
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I’m responding to your specific comment, dipshit.
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Poor baby, you’re definitely the real victim
I feel horrible for the Palestinians and the Ukrainians.
I always ask these people if they “deny” white genocide in Africa and Saddam Hussein’s nukes.
Fictional? They’re both genocides
One is a genocide; the other is a psyop[1][2], as was Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction and infanticide, Gaddafi’s Viagra rape soldiers, Milošević’s ethnic cleansing[1][2], and Assad’s chemical attack.
Since we’re using wikipedia as reliable source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
the psyop is hidden away at the source level; where you have to put in a lot of work and time to discover it.
the new york times, for example, has been caught red handed manufacturing consent and propaganda as recently as a few weeks ago and they’re cited over a dozen times in this article.
others should be easy to identifiable biased red flags for you like the U.S. Office of Director of National Intelligence.
Yeah, sure. Next you’ll be saying that whites are being genocided in South Africa
Spreading lies? You sure you don’t want to go back to Reddit?
Then why does the UN say it’s not? Hell, forget the UN, why is it that I can’t go a day without seeing physical evidence and pictures of the Gaza genocide, but after ten years of supposed extermination, in a region where far more people have phones and internet access, nobody has seen a single dead Uyghur?
What are you talking about?
See? You can’t even get one response into addressing the inconsistency without backpedaling to do it. You went from "China is committing a genocide, (“fact”) to “someone is accusing China of crimes against humanity (allegation of a different thing)”. Not even getting into HRW as a source because that conversation will never ve resolved: how does it not give you pause that your very best sources literally do not even say what you claim they do?
Also, and this is the big one, the sources in this article are all just either nameless anecdotes I’m supposed to take at face value, or HRW employees talking in vague terms about the spooky horror and the need to “hold China accountable”. I’ll dig through the actual report later, but i suspect I’ll find more of the same, because if they had more compelling evidence they’d probably just cite it in the article. It’s giving me “Hamas beheaded 40 babies” flashbacks. Given the lack of anything verifiable in what you’ve sent, id like to know what you think of a couple discrepancies between what you say is happening in Xinjiang, and what we know is happening in Palestine:
-In Gaza, we’ve seen absolute information control, censorship and the deliberate slaughter of journalists. Even so, thousands of images and videos have gotten though. Meanwhile, Xinjiang is open to tourists and travel vloggers. Where is the evidence of atrocity?
-Until Israel collapsed the medical reporting system of Gaza, we had access to a great number of recorded deaths and a documented death toll. Why not the same in Xinjiang? Even if you want to say “oh, because China is keeping them all a secret” then why isn’t there even a western estimate?
-Where are the Muslim majority countries publically condemning China like they’re condemning Israel? Why hasn’t Yemen launched a missile at Shenzen port?
-And the big question, the one the propagandists don’t even try to address but just allow the reader’s own prejudices to provide the answer: Why? Why do a genocide at all?
Look, I could go on but TLDR show me a dead uyghur
So if I kill you but hide the body well enough you’ve never been killed?
Is BBC biased too? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037
Ah yes, the devious Chinese have somehow killed a shitload of people (how many people? Millions? Who’s to say, you won’t even guess) without leaving any evidence behind, which we all know is totally possible to do in the age of smartphones. You’re grasping at straws and desperately avoiding questions, and now your ultimate argument is “Well you can’t prove it isn’t happening!” Which is the last resort of a whiny religious fundamentalist who knows they’ve lost the argument. I gave you pertinent questions, and all you could give me in return is Qanon-level bullshit about an impossbile secret genocide and “trust me bro”. No investigation, no right to speak.
Is BBC biased too?
Lol.
yes of course it’s biased, it’s literally state propaganda for the UK, a geopolitical enemy of china
People like you disgust me. Trying to equate China’s (at time heavy handed but understandable) efforts to undo the spread of Salafism into the region that bled over from Afghanistan after the Taliban took over with the aid of the CIA to the live streamed wholesale slaughter of the people of Palestine is tantamount to holocaust denial and you should be ashamed of yourself.
What would you propose we do about the MAGA christian fascist fundamentalists were we to denazify the US? Just let them keep preaching their hatred? There are times when mass reeducation and deradicalization programs are absolutely necessary.
I don’t know about the US and frankly I don’t care, I’m not from that country as I’ll stay as distant as possible from that pile of shit
They are being forced into concentration camps with many human rights violations to be reeducated, but it’s not technically genocide yet?
