When Gemini recommended SmartTube I made the switch.
Some of us don’t base their buying off of stupid ads. Why can’t we just be left alone. At this point I’m just basing on if I have any money left after going to the gas pump.
That’s not the point. Youtube doesn’t want to sell you anything. They want to sell you to the companies that want to sell you something. Doesn’t matter if you buy anything, as long as you give them some attention.
Yeah, it’s really annoying how ads have become “Mr. Beastified” too. I can’t even turn a TV on without some attention sucking advert coming on that demands your full and centered attention. What was a chill afternoon feels more like a tax.
Just quit YouTube. Just part of degoogling. When I finally get all my auth off of Google I’ll finish it and go to graphene.
Not the alternative one would be usually looking for, but Glomble is a neat place to share videos
any good alternatives? I know of curiosity stream etc but not another site where anyone can upload.
I tried curiosity stream but ended up not liking it. Since 90% of what I watch is educational or infotainment I’ve gone with a sub to nebula, as most creators I was following on YT are there. Note there is no upvoter/down vote or commenting of any kind there.
Peertube is the fediverse alternative. It’s cool but not a ton of traction right now
this is cool, thanks! I’ll upload my own youtube videos to it. :D
You’ll come crawling back
Guess that explains why GrayJay stopped working.
Logging out and in fixed this for me
I started routing all of my system traffic through Tor recently, which made YouTube nearly impossible to watch. So, my watching time on YouTube has dropped, and I have started watching more Rumble, Odysee, and PeerTube.
How do you find them as replacements?
Harder to find content, but otherwise alright. I was honestly a little bit surprised at how many channels I did find that I follow on YouTube were already on Odysee or Rumble. Though I used to watch two channels about the US cellular networks such as AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon that are not on any of the other platforms. So I just lost that content.
I’ve probably watched thousands of hours of YouTube over many years. I honestly don’t see what people have against paying for the service in stead of watching ads. It’s not like you never heard of YouTube premium, you know it exists.
Ads require streaming. I prefer watching already downloaded videos so I don’t need to worry about having a stable internet connection.
But I’m watching through RSS feeds, yt-dlp + VLC player, so browser adblockers aren’t really relevant to my use-case.
I paid for it for a while, but the price kept going up way faster than inflation (and even faster than my salary). I just pay for Nebula and Dropout instead.
Paying them not to stuff annoying bullshit into your content still doesn’t stop them from slorping up every possible facet of your personal data. So long as they’re double dipping, I’m not giving them a dime.
And a lot of people already pay for spotify, so they could switch to YouTube premium and have music and ad free videos
Some people don’t really watch it as much to justify a subscription. I watch it everyday and listen to yt music daily as well, so my sub is pretty worth it. Otherwise i’d just get Nebula
15 years ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s not just ads any more.
These companies track everything you do, share data with eachother, and create profiles on everybody.
If I were to follow you around keeping track of everything you do and share that info with my buddy who does the same thing, you would probably feel unsafe, and it’s illegal. It’s called stalking.
So why is ok for a corporation to do these things?
You already pay for it in more ways than one. Who pays for the data centers? You do, the increased water and electrical bills. The increased property taxes.
Those mutually shared power pylons didn’t get built for free, you paid for them. You pay for the internet service. What else do you want to pay for? Just line right up. These companies aren’t paying you for the fuel to deliver their vomit yet you line right up and eat it all and say it’s not that bad. Get bent. oh wait spit roasted? sorry don’t mean to kink shame.
I paid for a while but got sick of getting shorts and playable pushed into my feed every other day. I’m using Viddle now which is great, I might go back to paying if that stops working as I don’t mind supporting creators, just don’t like the stuff YouTube is pushing.
I use an app called freetube
If your having issues with ad blockers then this might be worth a try
pipepipe is working just fine for me. youtube will never win this war. the best they can do is force people to work around their temporary tricks, people who will always be more motivated than youtube engineers.
The day they “win” is the day YouTube is dead to me
Same, will just read books instead (if nothing on alternative platforms)
Exactly. In some way this would even be appreciated since I would probably do way more useful and healthy things with the time that I currently spend on YT.
The link is broken.
After some searching, found it here.So no one else has to do that annoying seach, here is the article text.
I’m sure formatting will be shite. Sorry about that.YouTube is becoming unwatchable for ad block users – thanks to this powerful new crackdown tactic News By Mark Wilson Published May 28, 2024 Videos now auto-skip to the end, ad block users report
A laptop showing YouTube's ad blockers message next to a laptop showing UBlock Origin (Image credit: YouTube / Shutterstock / monticello) Share
The battle between YouTube and ad blockers is heating up again, with some YouTube users reporting that videos are now auto-skipping to the end if they’re using extensions to block advertisements.
The new YouTube tactic has been widely reported on Reddit (via 9to5Google), with ad blocker users revealing that video playback immediately skips to the end of their video. This apparently continues to happen even if the video is immediately replayed.
While Google hasn’t officially stated that this is a new tactic for dealing with ad blockers, it has escalated its crackdown on apps and extensions that remove advertisements in its videos over the past few months.
For example, in April a Google post in a YouTube Community forum stated that viewers who use third-party apps like NewPipe “may experience buffering issues or see the error “The following content is not available on this app” when trying to watch a video”.
This new auto-skipping behavior appears to affect multiple ad-blocking extensions including AdBlock, although there’s some evidence that uBlock Origin has already found a workaround for the issue.
The other solution, of course, is to subscribe to YouTube Premium ($13.99 / £12.99 / AU$32.99 a month), which is undoubtedly what YouTube is pushing users towards with its ad block crackdown. But its tactics are seemingly nudging many towards doubling down on ad blockers, resulting in a game of whack-a-mole that’s likely to run for a long time.
Is Premium worth it? A YouTube Premium menu on a tablet
(Image credit: Shutterstock) YouTube argues that using ad blockers “prevents the creator from being rewarded for viewership” and that the site’s increasingly long advertisements “help support creators and let billions of people around the world use the streaming service”.
The problem is that, with those advertisements becoming increasingly lengthy and unskippable, many users feel that YouTube is increasingly looking to boost its own bottom line as much as its creators’ income.
In a parallel to Netflix’s password-sharing crackdown, there is evidence that YouTube’s ad blocker is working – back in November, ZDNet reported that Google’s tactics had led to a record number of users uninstalling their ad blockers. And in February, YouTube reported that it had hit a new milestone of 100 million YouTube Music and Premium subscribers.
But with YouTube Premium also recently getting its biggest price hike in years, many are still holding out and using ad blockers and extensions like YouTube Enhancer to preserve an ad-free experience. With YouTube ramping up its battle with ad blockers, though, the game of cat-and-mouse will likely become increasingly hard-fought.
Published May 28, 2024
yt hasn’t defeated uBo or revanced/morphe in the 2 years since this article came out.
ngl, revanced doesn’t work for me anymore as of yesterday - most videos either drop to 144p after a few seconds and can’t be changed, or simply won’t load past the 1 minute mark. in the past i’ve been able to fix this by updating to a more recent revanced version, but i’m still having this on the latest youtube apk and revanced patches. will give it a few days and see if we get any new updates…
Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that
There’s a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/
Is the article 404ing for anyone else?
Yep
For me as well (in germany)
You guys, Mr YouTube worked really hard to make and produce all those videos quit stealing them!!
dont reupload them to new chinese global platform called bilibili. use their new mobile apps if you do
Hasnt been very successful as i can see, mine goes well and i even vibe coded some slop IPA for my iphone to sideload a custom ad free client that works flawlessly. Idgaf their greedy ass, ima watch my shit adfree until i tapout
Try Unwatched
Yeah , I love a good ad blocker / sponsor block / privacy frontend but they all feel like duck tape on a sinking boat. At some point we have to move away from these centralized platforms but the enshitification hasn’t outweighed the lion’s share of content / creators on these platforms to a tipping point for the majority. Ad blocks let you mitigate the enshitification so you can stay on these platforms longer - in many cases this is required so not knocking it, I do it as well. My hope is that as these companies continue to go after ad blocks users will finally jump ship in mass as they are forced to confront the lovecraftian nightmare that is any of these platforms without an ad block.
so thats I why I welcome that new chinese entry - bilibili. I think it will give yoube good competition.
I would just repost shit there from youtubeI certainly agree that more options will help - but, I would love to see a more federate / user powered, owned option take YouTube’s place not just Youtube #2. it feels like a centralized option will just corrupt over time no matter the intentions and we will just be repeating the same mistakes but perhaps the economics of Video hosting / streaming at scale require something like this … I am not sure how the economics of something like peer tube scale but I would love to see us all learn from our mistake and not just make it again. But … maybe I am just idealistic and not grounded in reality.
PeerTube
Odysee
Internet Archive, to an extentNebula
Floatplane
Vimeo
Patreon videoBitch your content creators to also provide content on other platforms.
Maybe add Bilibili, TikTok, Facebook, and Dailymotion to the list. Yes, they also have ads but they are not that strict about ad blockers.
Fuck tiktok, Fuck facebook.
But they are the only plausible alternatives with enough funding to operate
They should both be dismantled permanently and their scumbag owners/CEOs dealt with in an appropriate fashion
Once thousand percent 💯
NewPipe
That’s a privacy overlay like nitter for twitter, not a hosting platform.
Works better than invideous though.
I bought a lifetime to Nebula for $300. Enjoying zero commercials on the content
Also not sustainable.
From what I understand (very limited knowledge here, might be BS) YouTube actually pays creators more than pretty much any other platform.
I do but they usually bitch right back
Also remind them that html has a <video> tag that is very easy to use
The content creators won’t make the effort unless they have some way to monetize their views though.
I’m my opinion the best days of YouTube were before monetization was a thing. There were plenty of creators back then, and it was a lot less corporate than it is now.
People think TikTok took off because the algorithm has some magic sauce the other platforms don’t. Nope. It’s because the content was more authentic because creators couldn’t monetize. It was like YouTube in the early days.
Unfortunately, you need monetization to keep going. If creators didn’t, they wouldn’t have folded to YouTube monetization rules and just kept posting whatever they wanted. Basically, YouTube demonitezes then crrators have folded to just censoring their videos instead of pushing back because of money.
What they are saying tho is that people who want to make actual content don’t care about monetization. They do it for the love of the game. Sure you can get a few to censor swear words and suicide, but the thing that built it was freedom. If you take away freedom then you’ve got nothing. Half the equation is people who watch the content. If people don’t want to watch your shitty watered down bullshit, and other people don’t want to be gagged by censorship, you’re going to alienate the base; that is, actually red blooded humanity. Oh, let’s say between the creators and the viewers its about 60% of your base. It won’t be over night but it will be enough that ther3 will be alternatives to the bullshit. I say bull shit because that’s what it is. Fucking goddamn horseshit. Thank you for glistening.
AFAIK, it’s still possible to upload content that can be demonitized if you really don’t care about monetization. The video will not be deleted, it will just be demonitized. However, creators don’t want to get demonitized so they bow down. There is still freedom just as long it’s not some extreme stuff.
invidious https://inv.nadeko.net/feed/popular
I haven’t been able to get invidious to work reliably for a year or more.
I’m not asking for a how-to. I’m happy enough with freetube on the desktop.
That’s a privacy overlay like nitter for twitter, not a hosting platform.
