• Nudelextrakt@feddit.org
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    24 days ago

    I’ve just tried it. The UX is great and the downloads are faster than ever. It’s soo much better noww!

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    24 days ago

    But does it allow you to backup your app list to move to a new device? This is why I moved to obtainium from Fdroid. In reading the article, I don’t see a mention of a backup feature.

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    24 days ago

    I’ve been on neo store for a couple of years for the apps that have no APIs ready in git repos (for those, Obtainium is just the greatest). I tried the new F-Droid app, and it is way smoother than the last time I tried it, and the UI improvement is amazing. They still show you apps that haven’t been maintained for over a year up front, but that’s not a deal killer.

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    22 days ago

    Saw the post after I had an update on my e/OS and wanted ti check out the new look.

    Sadly not one APP showed up. Empty shell. FDroid blank.

    24 hours? Will check it tomorrow.

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    24 days ago

    Been using it since the alpha came out, absolutely love what they’ve done with the app. The installation flow is much smoother with the instant prompt for confirmation, the more granular categories and improved search make browsing so much better. I tried other stores before, but I couldn’t get myself to like any of the actively maintained ones, v2.0 is good for me.

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    24 days ago

    https://keepandroidopen.org/

    Google says “power users” can “still install” unverified apps. Here’s what that actually looks like:

    Delve into System Settings, find About Phone

    Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode

    Dismiss scare screens about coercion

    Enter your PIN

    Restart the device

    Wait 24 hours

    Come back, dismiss more scare screens

    Pick “allow temporarily” (7 days) or “allow indefinitely”

    Confirm, again, that you understand “the risks”

    Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing software on a device you own.

    Worse: this flow runs entirely through Google Play Services, not the Android OS. Google can change it, tighten it, or kill it at any time, with no OS update required and no consent needed.

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      24 days ago

      i hadnt thought about it before but i just had the realization that im not even gonna be able to have 3rd party apps AND my banking app in the same phone (cuz it doesnt like developer options being enabled). uhm shit

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        24 days ago

        I unlocked my phone’s bootloader. I’m on the oem OS, up to date, no root, just unlocked the bootloader. Now my device is “not certified” and a lot of apps that have no business caring about my “certification status” don’t work (like my phone operator app). That’s if the playstore lets me download it in the first place: “this app is not compatible with your device”

      • notthebees@reddthat.com
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        24 days ago

        Latest Android update will hide developer options supposedly from apps. However, it’s on Android 17

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        24 days ago

        Non-tech savvy people don’t even care, don’t even think about this, and don’t know anything about it.

        • Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
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          No, some of they do care, but just have problems learning tech stuff or were excluded from digital education at the critical age, or have in general learning difficulties.

          My mom wants to still be able to install and uninstall anything she wants on her phone, but she’s elder (and is neurodivergent, too, as me) and has difficulties understanding and learning about tech stuff.

          You’re making a hasty generalization based on just a composition fallacy (some non tech savvy people don’t care at all, yes, but those are not all of the non tech savvy people).

          You shouldn’t be conflating both things as if it were the same, and even if they were the same (which they’re NOT), that wouldn’t make your comment less bad. They’re still victims of the Big Tech propaganda and marketing and of their massive social, cultural and political influence campaigns.

          Please, don’t be such a dickhead.

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            23 days ago

            Show me one non-tech savvy person that is installing anything that isn’t in the Android Play Store already. And that person has to have come up with this on their own and it wasn’t somebody like you who maybe tech savvy showing them how to do this I’ve been in IT for 21 years and I can guarantee no one is doing that.

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              23 days ago

              And that person has to have come up with this on their own

              Why is this a requirement?

              Plenty of people who would use privacy-respecting, free software that a tech-savvy friend likes and uses will now have to go through this process and probably decide it isn’t worth it.

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              23 days ago

              A non tech-savvy person may not be aware of the extent of digital surveillance and the rights they give up on their data unless someone who is aware tells them about it.

              Even after becoming aware - the inconvenience of switching to something else forces them to stay in that ecosystem unless someone helps them out of it. Many of them care enough to want to stop or limit their exposure to big tech, but without someone tech savvy to help they won’t know where to start.

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      24 days ago

      Worse - that 24 hour timer? You only have a short window of time once it finishes to continue, otherwise you have to wait another 24 hours.

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      24 days ago

      It won’t be a problem on a de-googled phone. Get it running LineageOS or GrapheneOS. Then install F-Droid (and probably Aurora store too). Some Google junk won’t work, but you’ll soon be more limited by having Google services on your phone than not having it.

      • CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        24 days ago

        Hardly the point though. For us this is a bother at most, but we can cope because we’re already doing our own thing and know what we want. Imagine trying to get your non tech-savvy friends to “sideload” (install) an app from outside the Play Store. Right now it’s not a big deal, so if they’re interested in the app, they’ll likely install it. But this amount of friction and scary warnings is way more likely to stop them.

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        24 days ago

        If one looks at the supported devices pages (which I do regularly hoping that it supports mine) it’s easy to see that 99% of devices on the market simply can’t use them.

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          23 days ago

          Yeah, it’s been getting harder as time goes on. It’s basically only pixels that are supported and still on the shelf.

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      23 days ago

      The same procedure applies if you want to unlock the bootloader?

      Edit: OK nvm it must be done to unlock the developer’s option

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      24 days ago

      I recently learned that this setting actually persist after migrating to another phone.

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          24 days ago

          Which is perfect for them to keep tying your profile information across the board in yet another way. Fuck that.

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            Do you create a new Google account every time you change phones? They’re already tying everything to you

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              I have 1 Google account use specifically for spammy shit. That account is tied to a completely fictional person and lives inside 1 chromium browser.

              My phones and computers have never seen a Google account other than inside the VM that runs that browser.

  • ℭ𝔞𝔱 @lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    I’m using F-droid and it’s still the same, I haven’t noticed any difference :P

    Furthermore, there’s that annoying Google law that blocks Android apps from being installed, and downloading apps like f-droid is quite complicated after that.

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      23 days ago

      You can opt out of it by putting your phone in “developer mode” or by using something like LineageOS

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        23 days ago

        I was thinking about rooting my phone to install LineageOS, but unfortunately, that plan won’t be possible because I don’t really understand how to do it, and I don’t have a computer or another phone to help me.

        The only thing I’ve done so far is disable Google Play services, and I’m using a few microG apps instead. :/

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          You don’t need to root your phone, just unlock the bootloader. But yes you will need to hook it to a PC or maybe another phone to make it work. I did mine off a PC.

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            23 days ago

            That’s why I gave up, I don’t understand any of this stuff. Furthermore, the bootloader seems like something very complicated to do.(。•́︿•̀。)

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          23 days ago

          LineageOS is great I am using it right now, however do keep in mind that you do not need to root your phone in order to install LineageOS.

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            What:0

            But you don’t need to unlock the bootloader. Your phone is needed to install LineageOS.

            Half the videos I watched on YouTube were of people saying you need to format your phone. Or do this or that to unlock that phone -_-

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        24 days ago

        Can’t speak for the person you’re replying to, but I always check the F-Droid repository first, too… but not using the F-Droid app because it’s been a sub-par choice for years.

        Droid-ify is what I use, but there are others. Many include/allow other FOSS repos and have additional useful features.

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        The repo, yes. The fdroid app was pretty shit for a long time. You had to update apps individually, for instance (I think that’s fixed now?)

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          My F-Droid app has been able to bulk-update for two years now. Sometimes you have to trigger the update process manually, but the apps all get updated.