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Is there no git hosting service left that isn’t pushing censorship and fascism? I think I should just start self-hosting at this point.
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Doesn’t this go against one of the main principles in the open source definition? that is no discrimination against fields of endeavour.
I disagree with OP calling it fascism to ban it, but people here are forgetting Monero exists and the valid use cases a cryptocurrency like that can have.
Not every cryptocurrency is a scam or a means to manipulate markets. If I’m in a country where I’m doing something objectively good, but still against the law, then cryptocurrency works if it requires finances to operate. See Sci Hub.
Edit: Why was this top of my homepage, I’m just noticing this post is two months old lol.
Is there no git hosting service left that isn’t pushing censorship and fascism? I think I should just start self-hosting at this point.
Aw, is someone sad that a nonprofit won’t spend their own money to host shitty pump-and-dump tools destroying the environment? Little pissbaby need a minute to compose themself?
Edit: By the way, speaking of fascism, OP…
Edit 2: Just want to say I find it immensely funny that the two people in this thread bitching about this democratic decision and calling it “fascist” and “authoritarian”, respectively, have posted an image of Germany captioned “The aggressor nation?” and knowingly, intentionally continue to fund neo-Nazis in Sweden.
It’s always projection from the “woke moralists!!” crowd.
knowingly, intentionally continue to fund neo-Nazis in Sweden.
Am I understanding you correctly that you’re accusing anyone who continues to use Mullvad as someone who supports neo-Nazis in Sweden?
If you know about this and continue to pay for it given viable alternatives, yes, you knowingly, willingly are. They wrote a whole spiel justifying it, so I’m going to point it out.
Flamman reports that [Berntsson’s] was the largest single private donation to any Swedish party in 2025, and on its own represented 72 percent of the [neo-Nazi] party’s income for the year.
I cannot speak for OP but you have intentionally mischaracterized my position on another matter instead of discussing and addressing the criticism leveled against Codeberg’s decision here and broader culture of authoritarian behaviour happening within the left.
I am myself left wing, its a mischaracterization to say “knowingly, intentionally continue to fund neo-Nazis in Sweden”. Because first of all, I didn’t know. Secondly, if you read what I actually wrote I say I do not approve of the action by co-owner of Mullvad and that his actions to not represent the the entirety of the organization.
Furthermore, in your attempt at ad-hominem, you selectively cherry pick a nuance take on the Mullvad situation where I am rightfully concerned about the loss of a much needed force in the sphere of digital rights and online privacy. And then neglect to highlight a post I made before where I am critical of emerging far-right fascism and the neoliberalism that fuels it.
My initial critisicm of the left and the decision by Codeberg is something you are welcome to disagree with. But you can do so addressing the issue at hand and not resorting to misrepresentation and emotive language.
By acting bad faith you have successfully derailed the conversation as such that I have had to defend myself. I remind you of what Jean-Paul Sarte wrote regarding fascists:
They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Don’t claim to be an anti-fascist while employing the methodology of fascists.
And don’t promote anti-intellectualism and use emotive language to try enforce ideological conformity on the left and claim you are not an authoritarian.
I am entitled to my dissenting opinion and in any healthy community it would be welcomed. Again you can disagree but your behaviour and words are toxic and only serve to fracture the left.
That’s a big wall of text that never gets around to supporting your claim.
What out-group is punished for their identity on Codeberg? Because a cryptocurrency developer is allowed to host other projects there.
Calling community rules about what can be hosted on their platform fascism is absurd. Every platform does that, community or commercial platforms alike. You seem to care about fascism but you are watering the term down and that is dangerous.
Look, I have not called anyone a fascist.
My comment was using this action by codeberg to highlight what I feel is growing authoritarianism within the left.
The in-group is people who belong to the prevailing ideological hegenomy within the left and the out-group is the suppression of differing points of view outside the hegemony with methods invoking ad-hominem, coercion, appeals to emotion and intimidation.
It is plain to see in this thread.
Was my comment hyperbole? Maybe. But it highlights a valid concern in my opinion and that it ironically evokes such clearly authoritarian reactions proves it was an appropriate criticism.
I bemoan the false equivalence of all cryptocurrency based code with fraudulent activity. And I see such lazy thinking as an act of vanity at the expense of tolerance.
Community standards are not authoritarian. Good grief. You have talked yourself into a corner with that wooly thinking.
I made a sarcastic comment and then defended myself against false accusations. It’s that simple.
I defined what I consider authoritarian:
The in-group is people who belong to the prevailing ideological hegenomy within the left and the out-group is the suppression of differing points of view outside the hegemony with methods invoking ad-hominem, coercion, appeals to emotion and intimidation.
Am I wrong? Is it not appropriate bring up a wider discussion about the state of the left on a post about a code respository? I dunno.
You choosing to not to exchange with what I have written and instead use emotive language “good grief” because you felt like jumping on the bandwagon with others making false accusations of fascism goes against your own principles about “watering the term down”.
Yes, you are wrong. Communities limit the content they want to host. They always do. Cryptocurrency software are not people.
Not the person your arguing with.
But what sarcastic comment? You entrrd this thread with a long winded winge.
Think this might be a hot take but crypto is better off hosted on a blockchained git alternative like ngit than codeberg or any other. And while unintentional is ultimately healthier for what crypto is.
Poow babby u wnt hug?
Is it facism if the community voted for it?
You might want to look into how fascism got into power in the 1930s.
The centrists let Hitler take power because fascism is better than comnunism for the bourgeoisie?
Huh, do you think fascism only excists with minority supporting it?
I am confused. Do you think cryptocurrencies are people? or do you think excluding certain kinds of projects from your community is somehow fascism?
Nobody is excluded from using codeberg based on their identity alone. Every community and internet platform has rules of what you can bring to it and what you are able to do there.
Unlike github, being excluded from codeberg hosting doesn’t really cost you anything because they don’t intend to be a walled garden.
I dislike Codeberg’s decision.
But I would not even think of calling it fascism or censorship.I just dislike it.
So, I move on.And due to the fact that I do not like to run into the next dead end, I decided to self host my repositories now. The only way to be assured that tha rules do not ever change in a way that I do not like.
Yes, the overhead is substantial.
It’s the trade off I chose and accept.What’s the definition of cryptocurrency-RELATED? Who defines what this all includes? Bad decision by codeberg…
crypto? you mean like fake money for laundering?
Yes, fake money that journalists use to launder so that they can report on human-rights violations!
“Oh no! They are banning the fascist enabler black market money machine who lobbied billions to place us in the fucked up fascist distopia we are now, how fascist of them!”
Strawman. There are good and bad use-cases of cryptocurrency and cryptography in general just like any other tool. Should we ban Diffie-Hellman as well since it is used by bad actors to send information on illegal and immoral stuff? Let’s just ban all of cryptography since it can be used by evil people to hide from authorities.
Cryptocurrency != cryptography please don’t put words in people’s mouths, that’s not very nice. I’ve been naive enough in the past to support Cryptocurrency but it will never work unless there’s a complete economic reset which will never happen… At least not without a total catastrophe.
I used cryptography as an example of a tool that has good and bad use-cases. Not that cryptocurrency equals cryptography. Perhaps I could have worded that better like “There are good and bad use-cases of any tool like cryptocurrency. For example, take cryptography.”.
“Everything I don’t like is fascism”
What a moronic take, and good of Codeberg to kick those assholes out.
Its great that they are not trying to be a universal replacement for Github but something more focussed to their community. That will encourage others to spin up their own Forgejo instances and that decentralisation is a feature not a bug.
They don’t need to host everything and everybody. That kills community. They are even spending money on developing activity pub federation, just like here.
