I’m curious why the flock cameras are worse than the “traffic observation cameras” that went up on top of every traffic light in like 2007. I was pretty upset about those at the time, but I never found any other push back.
Not many people upset about the cop cars becoming mobile license plate readers either.
Flock is selling software called freeform which tracks people’s movements. I don’t know if it can be used on their current cameras or if they need upgrades or new cameras.
Also, flock was planning to use stolen information from a hack against a parking lot company until a news story came out about it. Flock got ahold of the hacked data, that included license plates and names on credit cards, and was planning to use it to identify car owners. After news stories released they said they would not use it but it shows that they are a shady company.
It’s just a loss of privacy. Those old cameras captured plates but now there are flock cameras everywhere and the data they capture is searchable nationwide. The data is being used by ICE to find people they want to arrest. There is little oversight of their use. If police want to track your phone they have to get a warrant and show it to your phone carrier. If they want to track your car they just look it up in flock.
A lot of police officers are using flock lookups for their own personal use, like to track people they know.
Those ones didn’t track anything. At most they counted the number of cars. They didn’t identify you in any way, nor track you as you moved around. Nor could you search the data, except though manual review.
Flock cameras are worse, at least imo, because it’s “active”. The old cameras clocked your speed, took a picture, got processed and sent a fine. The flock cameras will misread your plate, determine you are a violent out of state felon, follow your movement and dispatch a squad to your location. You can be dragged out of the car at gunpoint before you even know what’s happening.
Theres also the universal database aspect that can expose all the different department’s data to each other, allowing officers to do things like saayy, stalk their ex-wives across state lines.
The history of movement they compile, the analysis tools available, the “proactive policing”, and the creep factor of always being monitored all roll together.
my town got them but every thing flagged by the system has to be reviewed by a peace officer who officially gives the ticket and signs off that a violation actually occured.
Guess how that’s going to play out. The machine flags someone for review, the cop hits accept without looking into it, now an innocent is being swatted.
Are you mentioning this implying that’s sufficient oversight? The alert is minimally providing reasonable suspicion to track and investigate someone. Police don’t need to ticket or bring charges to ruin your day.
If everything “checks out” as a misflag hopefully they cut that person loose quickly, without issue. Unfortunately, there’s too many videos of innocent people being felony stopped, because cops defer to the lead and treat the situation as they’re trained.
Oorr people go running for unrelated reasons except they drew today’s lucky number for a stop, leading to incidents.
I’m curious why the flock cameras are worse than the “traffic observation cameras” that went up on top of every traffic light in like 2007. I was pretty upset about those at the time, but I never found any other push back.
Not many people upset about the cop cars becoming mobile license plate readers either.
Flock is selling software called freeform which tracks people’s movements. I don’t know if it can be used on their current cameras or if they need upgrades or new cameras.
Also, flock was planning to use stolen information from a hack against a parking lot company until a news story came out about it. Flock got ahold of the hacked data, that included license plates and names on credit cards, and was planning to use it to identify car owners. After news stories released they said they would not use it but it shows that they are a shady company.
It’s just a loss of privacy. Those old cameras captured plates but now there are flock cameras everywhere and the data they capture is searchable nationwide. The data is being used by ICE to find people they want to arrest. There is little oversight of their use. If police want to track your phone they have to get a warrant and show it to your phone carrier. If they want to track your car they just look it up in flock. A lot of police officers are using flock lookups for their own personal use, like to track people they know.
Those ones didn’t track anything. At most they counted the number of cars. They didn’t identify you in any way, nor track you as you moved around. Nor could you search the data, except though manual review.
Flock cameras are worse, at least imo, because it’s “active”. The old cameras clocked your speed, took a picture, got processed and sent a fine. The flock cameras will misread your plate, determine you are a violent out of state felon, follow your movement and dispatch a squad to your location. You can be dragged out of the car at gunpoint before you even know what’s happening.
Theres also the universal database aspect that can expose all the different department’s data to each other, allowing officers to do things like saayy, stalk their ex-wives across state lines.
The history of movement they compile, the analysis tools available, the “proactive policing”, and the creep factor of always being monitored all roll together.
my town got them but every thing flagged by the system has to be reviewed by a peace officer who officially gives the ticket and signs off that a violation actually occured.
Guess how that’s going to play out. The machine flags someone for review, the cop hits accept without looking into it, now an innocent is being swatted.
Are you mentioning this implying that’s sufficient oversight? The alert is minimally providing reasonable suspicion to track and investigate someone. Police don’t need to ticket or bring charges to ruin your day.
If everything “checks out” as a misflag hopefully they cut that person loose quickly, without issue. Unfortunately, there’s too many videos of innocent people being felony stopped, because cops defer to the lead and treat the situation as they’re trained.
Oorr people go running for unrelated reasons except they drew today’s lucky number for a stop, leading to incidents.