• chaogomu@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    It’s not just about protecting children, it’s about protecting everyone.

    Nicotine is wildly addictive. Full stop. It and a host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues that greatly strain the medical system, and put strains on healthcare budgets.

    Since banning the product outright will likely not work, due to the aforementioned addictiveness, sensible countries have adopted a slightly different approach of making the cancer sticks as unappealing as possible, both to keep kids from starting and to help people already addicted quit.

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      host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues

      It’s mostly the tobacco causing health issues, not the wonderfully addictive nicotine. But yeah, it’s a good thing that flavored cigarettes are banned.

      Though it seems like big tobacco found a loophole on the first day, as you can still get menthol cigarettes in EU… it’s just not as strongly minted as it was prior to the ban.

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        The caffinated booze is a different hazard, it allows people who would otherwise go to sleep keep going, now with even worse judgement.

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          23 hours ago

          Yeah, it was especially bad when it was pre-made like that. Every bar where I live sells energy drinks and they’ll mix it with booze for you. But you have to make that decision in the moment as opposed to buying 12 4lokos instead of beers and now every drink you have wires you up more.

          As someone who has to wake up early most days I appreciate the ability to have an energy drink at a bar on a Friday night, but I’m sympathetic to the ban on alcoholic energy drinks

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            They add so much sugar too, which slows absorbtion, so once you feel like you’ve had enough, you still have a half hour of alcohol that hasn’t reached the blood stream. Its like it was designed to get teenagers blacked out.

            It would be less dangerous if they just put 4oz of whiskey with 150mg of caffine.

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      Ok, if it was about protecting everyone, they’d get rid of flavored alcohol too. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs on the planet.

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        They tried that. Famously so. So now we pay a fuck load of money trying to get people to willingly stop, and on enforcement of traffic laws.

        Which is why you can still buy your cancer sticks to feed your addiction, but not flavored. Because that’s a low hanging fruit. Just ban the cancer companies from flavoring their cancer sticks like candy. Make it obvious that they’re selling you your slow, painful death.

        Maybe you’re lost in your addiction, but maybe someone else can use this to quit, and maybe a kid won’t start. It’s all still cheaper than the healthcare costs of tobacco.

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          alcohol only negatively effects one person

          Tell that to the hundreds of thousands dead due to drunk driving, or the many women and children who suffer domestic abuse from alcoholics.

          Alcohol is one of , if not the worst drugs for society because it can cause belligerence which can lead to violence, and it lowers inhibitions and cognitive capabilities causing people to do dangerous shit and failing horrifically and harming people like drunk driving.

          In moderation has almost no negative effects

          there is no safe level of alcohol consumption it is poison, and I say that as someone who drinks often.