The US should have compulsory military service, once the Dem Socialists are in charge.
No buying your way out, no exemptions unless you’re in a vegetative state.
Everyone has to do it for 2 years.
It will build more generational solidarity than anyone realizes.
If the rich kid has to serve alongside the poor kids, maybe he’ll get a sense of what real life is like, especially if he’s the dude taking care of the toilets, or recycling milk containers.
That and making congress like jury duty, one 4 year term for everyone
Elect me your president, and I’ll spin off the US Army Corps of Engineers as a separate branch, it’s own uniformed service.
Service in the CoE, regular military, or perhaps employment in certain other civil services should be a prerequisite to vote, hold office, lobby, or be an officer, board member or stockholder of a corporation. We’ll find something for you to do, eradicating tumbleweeds, paving roads, laying railroad track, building schools.
You want a say in government, you spend your early 20s repairing dams.
I’ve both seen and read Starship Troopers. I think most people are familiar with Verhoeven’s heavy-handed satire, but Heinlein was serious. Leave it to a WWII vet to think the problem with Kids These Days is they weren’t forced to stab enough Japs.
The United States of America, here in 2026, operates the world’s largest army, the world’s largest navy, the worlds largest and second largest air forces, a marine corps, a coast guard and a motherfucking space force entirely manned by volunteers, and we have to keep picking fights with towel heads on the other side of the planet to justify it. What do you think we’d have to do to the rest of you fuckers if we had to find a place in the military for every last one of our 3.8 million teenagers that graduate high school every year? We’d be clumsily JDAMing London, Perth and Tokyo within the decade.
Nah fuck that, that’s the kind of thinking we get out of the regulatory capture cloaca-crotched lizard people currently plundering Washington DC. If we’re going to do the “service guarantees citizenship” thing, we’re not basing it on destructive power aimed without but with constructive power aimed within. And there ain’t gonna be no merchant class that somehow gets exempted that wields the actual power. Your kids are gonna spend 2 years in training and 4 years replacing lead pipes in Michigan just like the poor kids.
My idea for preventing wars of choice is for there to be a designated loved one (child, spouse, grandkid, etc) the President has to personally kill with their own hands in order to order military action not pre-authorized by a 3/4 vote by Congress.
This was proposed during the Cold War. In 1981 Roger Fisher proposed having the nuclear codes in a capsule inside the chest cavity of a naval officer, whose job it was to carry a butcher knife to be killed with. If the president wanted to launch, he’d have to get the codes by killing this guy with his own hands
Two years may be too short, some jobs require near two years of training from boot camp to fleet. I’m in aviation and my initial contact was 5 years active instead of the standard 4.
Okay, your simpleton suggestion is, two years of latrine digging (which doesn’t happen anymore, and was never a job anyways), THEN start the two years of training which when complete will finish out your four years or leave you with one remaining year of active duty?
That’s insteaf of two years of initial training then 2-3 years OJT, which a person can carry back out into civilian life and related career fields?
The US should have compulsory military service, once the Dem Socialists are in charge.
No buying your way out, no exemptions unless you’re in a vegetative state.
Everyone has to do it for 2 years.
It will build more generational solidarity than anyone realizes.
If the rich kid has to serve alongside the poor kids, maybe he’ll get a sense of what real life is like, especially if he’s the dude taking care of the toilets, or recycling milk containers.
That and making congress like jury duty, one 4 year term for everyone
Elect me your president, and I’ll spin off the US Army Corps of Engineers as a separate branch, it’s own uniformed service.
Service in the CoE, regular military, or perhaps employment in certain other civil services should be a prerequisite to vote, hold office, lobby, or be an officer, board member or stockholder of a corporation. We’ll find something for you to do, eradicating tumbleweeds, paving roads, laying railroad track, building schools.
You want a say in government, you spend your early 20s repairing dams.
Ooo I like this vibe
I’ve both seen and read Starship Troopers. I think most people are familiar with Verhoeven’s heavy-handed satire, but Heinlein was serious. Leave it to a WWII vet to think the problem with Kids These Days is they weren’t forced to stab enough Japs.
The United States of America, here in 2026, operates the world’s largest army, the world’s largest navy, the worlds largest and second largest air forces, a marine corps, a coast guard and a motherfucking space force entirely manned by volunteers, and we have to keep picking fights with towel heads on the other side of the planet to justify it. What do you think we’d have to do to the rest of you fuckers if we had to find a place in the military for every last one of our 3.8 million teenagers that graduate high school every year? We’d be clumsily JDAMing London, Perth and Tokyo within the decade.
Nah fuck that, that’s the kind of thinking we get out of the regulatory capture cloaca-crotched lizard people currently plundering Washington DC. If we’re going to do the “service guarantees citizenship” thing, we’re not basing it on destructive power aimed without but with constructive power aimed within. And there ain’t gonna be no merchant class that somehow gets exempted that wields the actual power. Your kids are gonna spend 2 years in training and 4 years replacing lead pipes in Michigan just like the poor kids.
I agree with you on this, based take
I agree with service for 2 years (after high school before college) but public service in general not just military.
Ok very fair point
My idea for preventing wars of choice is for there to be a designated loved one (child, spouse, grandkid, etc) the President has to personally kill with their own hands in order to order military action not pre-authorized by a 3/4 vote by Congress.
This was proposed during the Cold War. In 1981 Roger Fisher proposed having the nuclear codes in a capsule inside the chest cavity of a naval officer, whose job it was to carry a butcher knife to be killed with. If the president wanted to launch, he’d have to get the codes by killing this guy with his own hands
Time for the olde and proud tradition of Fragging your COs to return
Hard Agree
Two years may be too short, some jobs require near two years of training from boot camp to fleet. I’m in aviation and my initial contact was 5 years active instead of the standard 4.
For ppl who decide to continue after the initial 2 years they can take those jobs. You don’t need training to dig a latrine or chop onions
Okay, your simpleton suggestion is, two years of latrine digging (which doesn’t happen anymore, and was never a job anyways), THEN start the two years of training which when complete will finish out your four years or leave you with one remaining year of active duty?
That’s insteaf of two years of initial training then 2-3 years OJT, which a person can carry back out into civilian life and related career fields?
That’s your idea?
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