• updn@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    I used to listen to Alex Jones in the Bush Jr days. As a free-thinking liberal, I got sucked into his world because he seemed like a freedom fighter. Man, how things have changed. I can’t help but like Bush now. He seems like a good dude that got sucked into a world of terrible people.

    Will Trump seem the same in 20 years? Just a bumbling idiot caught up with bad people? Nah, he’s been a con man forever.

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      18 hours ago

      Bush was evil wearing the skinsuit of a likeable oaf.

      Trump is way worse, but Bush was really, really bad.

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        6 hours ago

        Bush’s family manipulation of the USA goes back decades before they were elected.

        As a free thinking liberal

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        18 hours ago

        Maybe… but now he’s just an old guy that paints and is a friend of Michelle Obama’s.

        Banality of evil, man. :(

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        17 hours ago

        I honestly don’t think Trump is worse. He’s going to have to work hard to top Bush’s innocent bodycount.

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          11 hours ago

          covid killed 1.3 million Americans.

          defunding US aid has effectively killed billions.

          If Bush was the devil, Trump is evil incarnate.

          currently Trump sits next to historical world leaders like Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, and Joseph Stalin.

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            7 hours ago

            covid killed 1.3 million Americans.

            Almost as many would have died under another president.

            defunding US aid has effectively killed billions.

            Not really sure what ‘effectively’ is supposed to mean but I’m pretty sure people would have noticed if 1/4 of the global population died.

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              3 hours ago

              Almost as many would have died under another president.

              incorrect. Trump dismissed parts of a worldwide research network that monitored infectious diseases. the team in China was dismissed months before covid began to spread in China in 2019.

              Trump was notified of the situation happening in China weeks before the first cases hit the US.

              so let’s just cover what he did.

              1. stripped all protection against early warning systems
              2. ignored intel about a spreading infection in China
              3. refused to close the borders before it was too late

              his further actions only worsened the situation.

              1. advocated for masklessness
              2. denied vaccine support
              3. actively sabotaged vaccine access for citizens
              4. denied vaccine access from other countries
              5. advocated for injecting bleach
              6. advocated for ivermectin
              7. denied the economic impact of covid
              8. denied the population loss of covid
              9. denied the efficacy of testing for covid
              10. actively sabotaged covid testing resources

              so, anyone with brain damage can see that he actively made it worse.

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              6 hours ago

              Millions have already died from USAID cuts. If that isn’t overturned things will get much, much worse.

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          16 hours ago

          Between just COVID and DOGE, Trump’s body count of innocent people is already in the millions, and climbing. I think he may have already passed Bush.