Soon they will start spinning up the corporate owned media to manufacture the appearance of support for having the cameras. Which city councils can then cite when they start the contracts again and accept their bribes.
Way too much unethical shit is getting implemented without community involvement.
Watch out for them immediately contracting with Axon instead, which is just as bad.
And nexstar, door dash, uber, probably instacart.
no one couldve possibly predicted that capitalist mass surveillance was a bad idea
It’s actually a good idea? You don’t have expectation of privacy when you’re outside. It’s legal for anyone to install a camera pointing outside.
so you are ok with the police officers who used Flock to stalk and rape people.
Got it. when you are a victim of Flock and get raped/killed by a stalker who used Flock. I’ll remember to point out that you were ok with Flock before you were personally affected. typical fucking Republican… you don’t give a shit until it affects you.
I didn’t say that
Your presumptions aren’t helpful in the slightest. Educate, don’t enflame.
Being unaware of the ramifications is not even remotely the same as being ok with them.
One camera isnt the problem.
A whole network of cameras tracking your every move, logged in a national database that doesn’t require a warrant or oversight is.
Police require a warrant to get your phones location data, but they don’t require one to ask Flock for your every move. This has already been abused hundreds of times by police and city employees to stalk their ex partners and more…
Not every move. Only moves in public where recording with your phone is already legal
Flock effectively follows you around like a stalker.
If I was to follow you around all day, recording everything you do (even if I just stay in public spaces), I would be guilty of harassment and potentially criminal stalking. Flock does the same thing, just via a network of cameras instead of literally following you in person.
There are tons of public cameras, but they’re owned by seprate individuals/companies. You’d be required to get permission from each ones owner to collect their footage, which in itself provides saftey against stalkers. The owners of that footage are in no way obligated to provide it and will likely refuse without being given a good reason. They may even still refuse until provided with a court order. That oversight, from both the footage owners and the courts that order it to be handed over, protects people from unlawful harassment, particularly stalkers.
The fact that Flock provides anyone with a badge/title the ability to freely search a massive database for every public location a person has been, what they were wearing, how they walk, what bluetooth devices they had, their mode of transport (plus every detail about it Flock can extract), facial recognition data, and more - is terrifying. 0 oversight: no warrant, no reasonable suspicion, no evidence of a crime; just following you around hoping to catch you doing something they don’t like (regardless of whether it’s illegal activity or not).
If you haven’t yet, you should really read that article I posted above.
A single search query recruits that entire network as a passive tracking apparatus. An officer who sets a specific plate on a “hot list” receives an automatic alert whenever that vehicle appears anywhere in the system — across city limits, across state lines, across jurisdictions the officer has no authority in. The abuser does not need to be present. The cameras do the watching for him.
Unless they’re Intel.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/trump-congress-fisa-spy-court-fbi-bill/
It’s a start
I was debating someone about this. I said we need for of the pole cutting and destruction while the other person said that’s not okay and we need to go through proper channels. I said we tried and were shut down. Glad to see I was right.
