• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Ah yes, break the bonds that bind family and ultimately society together to “protect women”. It is only lethal in places with shitty medical car…okay I see where you are going with this.

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        10 days ago

        break the bonds that bind family

        Nine months in utero counts for more than your first 18 years of life?

        I’ll need to break my adopted brother the terrible news

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          10 days ago

          Sorry to break reality to you and him.

          Also, we are talking about an artificial womb so you wouldn’t have a mother.

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            Do you not realize that an artificial womb still uses a fertilized human egg? Like, genetically, there’s still two human parents.

            It’s not like someone is going to fuck a robot and get it pregnant.

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              Your mother gives birth to you. She doesn’t just donate genetic material. She carries you inside her for 9 months before pushing you out and holding you as you take your first breathe. This is the way it has been for millions of years.

              What people are proposing is breaking that human cycle. Eliminating the investment of time body and soul into the next generation. Pretending this wouldn’t have significant impacts on our society is farcical. Population could literally be controlled by whoever has the money.

              We would also likely end up in a Gattaca situation because who would want to spend the money on a defective baby. Crispr babies raised by the government or corporations doesn’t sound like a future I would look forward to.

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                  I am talking about the implications of creating humans unethically in ways that would upend society as we know it.

                  Denying our strong familial bounds due to pregnancy and raising our biological offspring is silly. I am not saying fatherhood isn’t real or that people can’t adopt.

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                    10 days ago

                    Why is a family deciding to use a robotic womb “unethical”? What’s the difference between a robot surrogate and a human one?

                    You seem to be thinking they’re just going to pop out babies into the orphan factory and raise them like spare parts.