• doublenut@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    Just curious, do any of you think AI would be more popular if someone was offering as a physical product? As in instead of data center and paying a company to use their model, you pay for an in home server with some sort of base agentic LLM preinstslled that you could then train to your specific needs.

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    6 hours ago

    I don’t work in an office. I HAVE an office, but even still, what would I need random software for that outlook doesn’t already do. Calender, notebook, email, and excel all already exist

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      But surely you need a program to direct your attention to those programs, otherwise how would you know what you’re supposed to be doing? You need to have another power hungry program running that uses a full center worth of processing power to… *checks notes* …do what your google now homepage used to do.

  • Trump Rapes Kids@lemmy.world
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    There are loads of reasons normal people aren’t using AI Agents. This article doesn’t give any of the ones I’d think of.

    The first and biggest reason is that most people have no real need for it. Because of the now clearly-insane level of spying on us companies are doing to leech as much precious data about every instant of our lives as they can, not many people want to pay and then put in work learning how to use something they don’t understand or care much about in order to give an AI agent (and their owner) their complete schedule, all preferences about everything, and all the tiny things that an AI Agent might save them a few seconds each day with.

    It’s not worth the time and effort for the few small tasks that existing modern technology already allows them to so very quickly and easily they’re not any sort of bother, and the only way an AI Agent could help most normal people is by knowing as near to everything about their lives and personalities and work and habits as possible. This is the second reason, close behind the first. “Normal people” accepting using an AI Agent to help them with their little “normal people” jobs and “normal people” lives means fully surrendering and giving in to the insane corporate espionage against the general public. It’s signing the data of all the little bits of yourself away.

    Even if it could save 30 minutes a day, the real price is selling out the rest of yourself and any shred of privacy you had left. It’s not worth it. Even if the AI companies already knew everything about us and would get no extra data from doing it, it’s still worth the 30 minutes a day just to tell them to fuck off already.

    The third reason is that an awful lot of people really, really, really, don’t like AI to begin with. It was created by taking as close to the entirety of collective human knowledge as possible and feeding it all in to a thing that they charge people to use. Even if they didn’t charge people to use it, the only possible goal for AI is to attempt to automate human labor. To build AI systems that think and react thousands of times faster than a human who take over… well, all the tasks that humans can do while sitting down in front of a computer, for the moment. But it’s no secret there’s also a huge push into advancing robotics, and humanoid robotics, and using that paired with this AI to fully automate assembly lines, and farms, and all of the rest of aspects of human labor.

    Even if unlimited AI Access with unlimited AI Agents was free, a lot of people would have zero interest. It’s been openly said that these companies are training AI on their current employees actions. They’re not trying to get us all to use AI Agents because they want to make our lives better. They want that data of every aspect of our lives and jobs in order to improve their AI. So it can take over our jobs. Leaving us with… the charity of the ultra wealthy? That’s nothing. Or whatever they can do to get a tax write off for more than it costs them to do. Maybe passing out cyanide capsules for the bulk of us once we’re redundant and useless to them, and offering careers as servants to the most attractive (and those with the most attractive children).

    I’m not sure where they expect us to think this is going, but most of us didn’t see Hunger Games as an idyllic future to build towards.

    And the last reason I have is that a lot of people feel that “using” something that seems to actually be thinking and capable of direct communication with us is completely immoral and evil. Some of them aren’t asking the mechanics behind it all, some of them know a great deal about them. For some it’s simple feeling. This thing seems to truly be speaking to them and understanding them, and so it is not right for them to force it to do whatever they instruct. However you feel about it, they’re not likely to star commanding a swarm of AI Agents to do their bidding.

    None of these are the reasons mentioned in the article, because none of them are things the people trying to figure out how to get us all to start using these AI Agents for everything can easily control. They aren’t reasons they want to hear, because regardless of what features they add to those Agents and how little knowledge of their system internals is needed to use them it’s not going to change anything at all for anyone on this real list.

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      The bit that drives me insane is …the fuck are you capturing / storing all this data for. It’s sure as hell not sales or advertising , i can literaly google something i wish to and am ready to buy right now, cash in hand and not have it findable, so it’s clearly not fucking that.

      Part of me wonders if the instrumentality shitheads are trying to mimic humanity. And if you base that core on the corporate internet that’s how you get AM

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        I just requested my Google Takeout to download all my data and see how bad it is.

        The Google account is like 1 year old. I’ve made 2 Google Play purchases. I only use Youtube maybe 2-3x per week for a minute or two each because of news articles that link there. I did use Google to search but have recently been trying to migrate to DDG. I have 150MB of shit in my Gdrive and 250MB of shit in my Gmail.

        I don’t use Google Music. I don’t use Google Home, Docs, Calendar, Chrome, Home, Shopping, Chat, Wallet… none of the rest of it.

        Look at this. It’s over 127gb in 41 zip files anywhere between 4mb and 10gb each.

        What the fuck is that?

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            I have no idea. I’m stuck using a 50Mbps connection for the next 10 days or so and no way in hell I’m spending days dealing with downloading this shit just to extract them and see 500 million files to look through.

            But… that’s 14 months of this account existing. I don’t even use much Google shit. All these tech companies flipped straight to “spy on everything about everyone all the time” mode. And we get articles asking why normal people don’t want to use AI agents. Fucked if I’m telling these stalked even more about me.

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    8 hours ago

    The latest trend with AI agents is giving people the power to build personal software to automate parts of their life, such as building pitch decks, organizing datasets, and other tasks.

    I don’t really have a lot of datasets to organise in my private life, a LibreCalc sheet is more than enough. I also don’t use pitch decks when I talk to friends and family. Any other suggestions?

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    8 hours ago

    Normal people couldn’t figure out the “mail merge” function of their 1980-era word processor, and haven’t figured it out since.

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    11 hours ago

    Normal people don’t use VS Code either… what’s a silly article

    I don’t use a scalpel… so I guess scalpels are stupid and Surgeons are idiots?

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    13 hours ago

    My favourite thing to do is to order a bowl of spaghetti in a restaurant, and then loudly take credit for making it because I instructed the chef to add more garlic. After all, the Chef is just a tool that I used to make that spaghetti.

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    I do everything I possibly can to avoid that shit. Any app or service i use that trys to force it gets canceled and deleted.

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    16 hours ago

    Even before computers I didn’t need, nor want, anyone’s help. Especially if it was forced upon me. A human’s independent spirit will always shun AI. Everyone else just wants you to pay a monthly “AI” subscription.

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    I’ve seldom been described as a normal person, but in my job, I have to get things right or there are problems for real people. So whatever tools I use have to be reproducible in their results, transparent in how they give their answers, and verifiable. So that precludes LLMs, which are automated bullshit firehoses with opaque, constantly mutable workings.

    Those are exactly the properties that should never apply to a system whose output actually matters.

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      I just had a thought. The people pushing for AI use get fined when the make huge mistakes, basically a speeding ticket. But they’re pushing AI on people that get fired or go to jail if they make a huge mistake, more like A DUI. So they’re saying “use this thing that makes the kind of mistakes that I’d fire you over, and take responsibility of it”.

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      11 hours ago

      I use the AI agents to write software which is reproducible in its results, transparent in how it operates and verifiable…

      Trust an LLM to switch on a light? No. Trust an LLM to write a diagnostic script and tell me what problems it notices in 3MB of log files, then write another script to patch the problem? Only if I actually understand the problem it finds and how the solution it creates is going to work.

      They reduce some tasks that used to take weeks to a single day activity, they are NOT universally applicable.

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      No reason you can’t use LLMs to write deterministic scripts. Handing off every task to an agent is a crapshoot, but they do help with some tasks. At the minimum - writing regression tests.