Sooo, hyperbole aside, I did a quick search on the site of the retailer I last obtained parts through, right before the prices exploded, and their cheapest 1x64GB RAM DDR5 stick is about £2320.
(Big assumption here that the motherboard only has four RAM slots. If you’re going to cram 192GB onto it, you’re going to need at least a couple of those, and preferably three, not 2x64+2x32, hence not looking at smaller capacity sticks.)
As I write, eBay has one seller with a single 1x64GB DDR5 at a quarter of that, which makes me think they must be going by pre-explosion pricing, but it also has something at well over £10k, four times the other way (and more), so at least logarithmically, the stand-alone retailer is right in the middle.
That means that this server is probably going to be well in excess of £10k when they finally ship it with full spec. If they’re offering a warranty or support contract, probably around £20k. (Or £30k if they do the trick of simply changing the currency sign on a US dollar amount).
Not that it matters much since I think your math here checks out - but the framework desktop is all soldered memory, so no slots for memory needed. Likely some higher density chips used here than a 64GB DIMM stick. Point being, your estimate may still be optimistic!
Still don’t know why the company who prides itself on reparability and upgradibility even released a unit with unrepairable components, even given their latency justification.
It was a tradeoff between replaceable RAM or high throughput. For this device they felt the performance was more important than the ability to replace / upgrade RAM.
192gb memory: $127 million dollars.
127 million double dollars? Oh my…
Sooo, hyperbole aside, I did a quick search on the site of the retailer I last obtained parts through, right before the prices exploded, and their cheapest 1x64GB RAM DDR5 stick is about £2320.
(Big assumption here that the motherboard only has four RAM slots. If you’re going to cram 192GB onto it, you’re going to need at least a couple of those, and preferably three, not 2x64+2x32, hence not looking at smaller capacity sticks.)
As I write, eBay has one seller with a single 1x64GB DDR5 at a quarter of that, which makes me think they must be going by pre-explosion pricing, but it also has something at well over £10k, four times the other way (and more), so at least logarithmically, the stand-alone retailer is right in the middle.
That means that this server is probably going to be well in excess of £10k when they finally ship it with full spec. If they’re offering a warranty or support contract, probably around £20k. (Or £30k if they do the trick of simply changing the currency sign on a US dollar amount).
It’s not RAM slots, it’s unified memory, built into the CPU/chip. ALso means you can’t expand it later.
Not that it matters much since I think your math here checks out - but the framework desktop is all soldered memory, so no slots for memory needed. Likely some higher density chips used here than a 64GB DIMM stick. Point being, your estimate may still be optimistic!
Still don’t know why the company who prides itself on reparability and upgradibility even released a unit with unrepairable components, even given their latency justification.
The soldering decisions are confounding because of their mission.
It was a tradeoff between replaceable RAM or high throughput. For this device they felt the performance was more important than the ability to replace / upgrade RAM.
It was more AMD than Framework AFAIK. Soldered memory is basically a requirement to run the strix halo platform.
They’ve used LPCAMM on the Framework 13 Pro. I did wonder if they were going to update the Desktop to do the same.