I lived in china for 4 years, got out of the expat bubble, lived in smaller cities and I gotta say, for people that have never been to china or actually been friends with Chinese people, y’all are pretty allergic to any criticism, no matter how legitimate, of china. Maybe take a step back from YOUR OWN biases and be a little objective. There are great things about china. There are bad things about china. No country’s perfect
i’ve also lived in china, well outside of the “expat bubble”
every criticism presented in the post that’s repeated ad nauseam by shitlibs is false and if you’ve actually lived there you’d know it. and fyi, we communists have plenty of actual criticisms but “see see pee 1984 one gorillion uyghurs dead adrian zens said so” isn’t one we lend any credence to because it’s stupid as fuckt
Literally nobody here says that China is perfect or that there aren’t bad things about China. The reality is that no human society is perfect, but ones not run by pedo kleptocrats are objectively better than ones that are.
Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.
Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you. Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy. Usually goes something like this “Idk man, there’s a lot of merit to the claim that there’s aggressive censorship in China. I experienced it firsthand.” And the response will be something like “You’re a brainwashed western chauvinist.”
But I also get it from the other side. Like when it comes to healthcare in China. People call me a liar when I tell them it was fast, cheap, and good.
So I guess I’m a liar to both sides of the china brain rot.
Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy.
The classic western liberal thing of pretending that any other westerner who sides with the empire’s enemies must simply be doing it out of some kind of contrarian fetishism or pseudoreligious mania. Whatever the reason you decide, it can’t possibly be that the communist is in his right mind, because that’s a terrifying prospect you have no answer for.
Hahaha, yes I have. You came right out of the gate and called me a liar with zero evidence. That is uncivil. And here you are proving my point. Have the day you deserve
I lived in china for 4 years, got out of the expat bubble, lived in smaller cities and I gotta say, for people that have never been to china or actually been friends with Chinese people, y’all are pretty allergic to any criticism, no matter how legitimate, of china. Maybe take a step back from YOUR OWN biases and be a little objective. There are great things about china. There are bad things about china. No country’s perfect
i’ve also lived in china, well outside of the “expat bubble”
every criticism presented in the post that’s repeated ad nauseam by shitlibs is false and if you’ve actually lived there you’d know it. and fyi, we communists have plenty of actual criticisms but “see see pee 1984 one gorillion uyghurs dead adrian zens said so” isn’t one we lend any credence to because it’s stupid as fuckt
Wow, no one can have a well informed opinion that’s different than yours? Well fuck me
Literally nobody here says that China is perfect or that there aren’t bad things about China. The reality is that no human society is perfect, but ones not run by pedo kleptocrats are objectively better than ones that are.
What’s bad about china?
Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.
You haven’t been the discourses I have. All my previous comment is based on firsthand experience right here on lemmy.
That comment makes me question your other experiences.
So’s mine, and my experi3nce says you’re lying about your experience
Imagine someone having a different experience than you. The shock and horror.
Might it have anything to do with your demeanor, disposition, actions and words?
Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you. Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy. Usually goes something like this “Idk man, there’s a lot of merit to the claim that there’s aggressive censorship in China. I experienced it firsthand.” And the response will be something like “You’re a brainwashed western chauvinist.”
But I also get it from the other side. Like when it comes to healthcare in China. People call me a liar when I tell them it was fast, cheap, and good.
So I guess I’m a liar to both sides of the china brain rot.
Haha, no.
The classic western liberal thing of pretending that any other westerner who sides with the empire’s enemies must simply be doing it out of some kind of contrarian fetishism or pseudoreligious mania. Whatever the reason you decide, it can’t possibly be that the communist is in his right mind, because that’s a terrifying prospect you have no answer for.
Hahaha, yes I have. You came right out of the gate and called me a liar with zero evidence. That is uncivil. And here you are proving my point. Have the day you deserve
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Bullshit, bring receipts
I think your previous comment is based on a dream you had one night.
If you say so just doesn’t seem accurate to my experience.