• 秦始皇帝@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.

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      2 days ago

      You haven’t been the discourses I have. All my previous comment is based on firsthand experience right here on lemmy.

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            20 hours ago

            Might it have anything to do with your demeanor, disposition, actions and words?

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              20 hours ago

              Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you. Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy. Usually goes something like this “Idk man, there’s a lot of merit to the claim that there’s aggressive censorship in China. I experienced it firsthand.” And the response will be something like “You’re a brainwashed western chauvinist.”

              But I also get it from the other side. Like when it comes to healthcare in China. People call me a liar when I tell them it was fast, cheap, and good.

              So I guess I’m a liar to both sides of the china brain rot.

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                20 hours ago

                Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you.

                Haha, no.

                Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy.

                The classic western liberal thing of pretending that any other westerner who sides with the empire’s enemies must simply be doing it out of some kind of contrarian fetishism or pseudoreligious mania. Whatever the reason you decide, it can’t possibly be that the communist is in his right mind, because that’s a terrifying prospect you have no answer for.