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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 14 hours ago

Spanish government ‘quietly bans use of Palantir’ in critical state systems over fears of national security leaks

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Spanish government ‘quietly bans use of Palantir’ in critical state systems over fears of national security leaks

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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 14 hours ago
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Spain has started quietly banning companies from signing contracts with controversial US tech firm Palantir amid security fears.
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  • Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world
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    Spain keeps on winning. Hell yeah! Let’s fucking go!

  • qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    I’m jealous. Spain government doing everything right in the struggle against big tech dystopia, genocide, antifascism. 🇪🇸

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    And in Sweden we’re signing up for even more use of Palantir by the military and police… 🙃

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    I mean did any country think it was a one-way info faucet? Where do they think the Intel was coming from?

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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      Not from AMD.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      It’s an interesting point.

      I would assume, personally, given that the Biden admin and Trump I admin were staffed with actual serious people, that there were more guardrails and oversight and Alex Karp had to be better behaved in his business operations. The billionaires, however, are running the asylum now, and there are absolutely no guardrails.

      In 10-20 years, when Donald is gone and people feel safe to write books about what’s actually happening right now, it’s going to make for interesting and enlightening reading.

      • pnwpixel@programming.dev
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        “enlightening” is mighty generous

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Responsible personnel?
    In a government?
    In this time, age and economy?

    Holy fuck. I must be dreaming.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      Pedro Sanchez is a capable prime minister of the ruling Spanish Socialist Worker’s Party. Unfortunately, his party and his family members are embroiled in scandals which tarnishes his legacy. But that’s not to say that Pedro isn’t corrupt himself, he just hadn’t been directly implicated.

      • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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        I have yet to meet a single person from Spain who doesn’t despise him, even if they’re left wing

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          As an outsider, I kinda like him but hearing of the controversies surrounding him, it says a lot that he could be looking the other way even though he may not be directly involved.

    • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
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      Spanish government

      • is different government
      • in different timezone
      • founded in different year
      • and is a different economy

      I think you found a hack, actually.

  • Armand1@lemmy.world
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    Can we have that in the UK too?

    • EtzBetz@feddit.org
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      Can we have that in Germany too?

    • londos@lemmy.world
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      https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/andy-burnham-nhs-palantir-contract-ethical-concerns-1806684

      • Armand1@lemmy.world
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        Let’s hope he goes through with it.

  • BL4CKP1XX13@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Damn right it’s a national security concern, let the US keep it’s spyware to itself.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      You’d think that an entities senior leadership and investors being populated with openly corrupt, anti-democratic, mentally-ill, psychopathic, megalomaniacal, fascists and pedophiles would be a deal breaker, but most of the political class across Liberal “democracies” don’t have a problem with it.

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        why would they have a problem with people just like them?

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    They should do it loudly, imho

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    the Spanish government is very based. how do i move to Spain?

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      Look for work there? If you’re in the EU, you’d just come over and look for a rent spot

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      Same as to any other EU country.

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        (as a EU citizen)

        • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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          Are the different immigration rules for people from outside of EU depending on which EU country they want to enter?

          https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/work-permits/index_en.htm

          Looking at this the rules are EU wide, not specific to member countries.

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            There are very different rules. Like worlds different.

            Comparing just Belgium and the Netherlands right next to each other. The Netherlands is quite doable if you find a job. Some automatic work visas and then residence based on that depending on origin country

            In Belgium literally no company in the country outside of IMEC and Deloitte will go through the extremely long visa sponsorship program (only digitalized in 2022 IIRC). It is pretty much only possible if you have family or a partner that already lives there. Even people studying there for 3-8 years have a few months to find a job or they are kicked out (in a bad job market compared to other countries also).

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              Have they always been this exclusionist?

            • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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              Interesting. I didn’t know that.

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            That site doesn’t address residency or visa requirements. But I can confirm, they are different depending on the country of origin and destination.

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      Shit ton of money and being prepared for huge taxes could help

      Edit: turns out the taxes are better than in other places

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        what huge taxes are you talking about? it’s not that different from what you’d expect in the EU in general, lower than some and higher than others. Pretty typical for Western Europe.

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        Huge taxes compared to where?

        • lad@programming.dev
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          To eastern Europe, for instance

          • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day

            Spain: 37%

            Poland: 44%

            Finland: 45%

            Latvia: 44%

            Hungary: 59%

            Czech Rep.: 45%

            Other source: https://www.brusselsreport.eu/2021/07/22/new-study-compares-tax-freedom-days-in-europe-and-around-the-world/

            Spain: 43%

            Poland: 44.5%

            Czech Rep.: 43.7%

            Hungary: 46%

            Another source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oecd-tax-rates-by-country

            Spain: 39%

            Poland: 33%

            Lithuania; 38%

            Hungary: 41%

            Finland: 43%

            So… no?

            • lad@programming.dev
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              Hm, maybe I was wrong, will edit then

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                I would also dispute the “shitload of money” claim. Moving always costs money but I know bunch of people that moved from South America, Australia or Eastern Europe and none of them are rich. You really just need to be able to find a job. Any job. If you have a skill that’s needed here you will be fine.

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                  Uh, I don’t think it’s that easy, though. For instance, non EU residents cannot get a work visa unless they are sponsored by Spanish companies and have proof that they will be earning “adequate” wages, typically more than 20,000 euro a year.

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                  Well, I meant it more in the sense that otherwise moving is usually hard work and is more or less no different for any country

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    Why quietly, though? Scream it to the world that you are kicking out Palantir!

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      I have noticed what appears to be an uptick in the usage of quietly recently. It’s like the new “slammed”.

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        Maybe because AI loves using adverbs. Like, there is always an uncanny amount of adverbs. So my guess is those headlines are ai generated or at least partially written

    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      But then the mutated Orange would throw a fit and slam his small nub of a dick around.

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    • Old days: “We need more files and papers and other stationery for our loyal employees to keep track of all of our data and information.”
    • Nowadays: “We need an international company of questionable ethics to keep track of all of our data and information.”
    • We’ve come a long way, baby. /s
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    Estaban usando palantir? Qué hijos de perra

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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      At least they stopped using it.

      More than can be said about the current Finnish government

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    I hope they have an alternative

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      You mean like… not using that kind of evil technology?

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        No, I mean an alternative to Palantir

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          You don’t need an alternative to Palantir if you decide not to use the kind of distopic shit palantir sells.

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            Dystopic shit is when crime prevention and surveillance

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              Obvious troll is obvious.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          So you say “no” to “not using evil technology”

          I guess at least you admit it’s evil.

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      To what? And for what purpose?

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