I think this is about losing fans/customers, not necessarily losing money. Which is still a stretch with Steam. The Machine isn’t the best product, but it’s not harming anyone.
No surprise there, there are plenty of people with expendable income that will want Valve’s newest thing. But even their biggest success, the Steam Deck, only managed around 5 million sales at a reasonable price. The Steam Machine is doubly niche at that price.
Why do you think it’s more niche? It’s a pc, priced reasonably for a pc this size at this time, while the deck is a handheld. Are you saying that PCs are more niche than handhelds nowadays?
Eh, I’d argue the steam machine isn’t a PC to most people that don’t already own a PC. Most adverts I’ve seen of the steam machine promote it very console-like, just with steam and more games. Everyone who reads enough into it, and knows enough about PCs to feel comfortable with Linux, most likely already has a comparable or better PC at home.
While I agree there with the Machine being more niche and would probably not sell as much as a Deck, the deck also has availability issues. Can’t sell more than exist 🤷♂️ (or well, I guess you could, but then you’d be an asshole lol).
The Deck was available and at a decent price for years. But you’re right, every one they made did get eventually get sold until the new and “improved price” versions came out.
I mean it’s closer to a pellet gun because afaik the Steam machine isn’t subsidized by game sales unlike some consoles, still engineering and setting up manufacturing still probably cost a lot so it’s probably still a gun just not a shotgun.
I’m assuming Steam’s shotgun is the Steam Machine price? Not shotgun-worthy at all. They’ll make money regardless of how it does.
The Steam Machine is actually a better choice in a digital-only console landscape. Only a PC is better than it
At this rate, the PS6 would be a streaming device (like the Playstation Portal) and the PS7 would be an online virtual machine.
It IS a PC
My guess would be Steam removing physical gift cards?
They were very obviously “shot” by AI and memory manufacturers.
OP is not a very good detective. They’d walk up on a scene and determine that five shots to the back of the head must have been suicide.
And so will all the others, maybe except Ubisoft.
I think this is about losing fans/customers, not necessarily losing money. Which is still a stretch with Steam. The Machine isn’t the best product, but it’s not harming anyone.
The damn thing sold out immediately.
No surprise there, there are plenty of people with expendable income that will want Valve’s newest thing. But even their biggest success, the Steam Deck, only managed around 5 million sales at a reasonable price. The Steam Machine is doubly niche at that price.
Why do you think it’s more niche? It’s a pc, priced reasonably for a pc this size at this time, while the deck is a handheld. Are you saying that PCs are more niche than handhelds nowadays?
Eh, I’d argue the steam machine isn’t a PC to most people that don’t already own a PC. Most adverts I’ve seen of the steam machine promote it very console-like, just with steam and more games. Everyone who reads enough into it, and knows enough about PCs to feel comfortable with Linux, most likely already has a comparable or better PC at home.
It’s meant to be an entry-level PC to help console gamers migrate into a PC environment with minimal overhead.
It’s not meant to be a 4k at 240fps future proofed build.
While I agree there with the Machine being more niche and would probably not sell as much as a Deck, the deck also has availability issues. Can’t sell more than exist 🤷♂️ (or well, I guess you could, but then you’d be an asshole lol).
The Deck was available and at a decent price for years. But you’re right, every one they made did get eventually get sold until the new and “improved price” versions came out.
I mean it’s closer to a pellet gun because afaik the Steam machine isn’t subsidized by game sales unlike some consoles, still engineering and setting up manufacturing still probably cost a lot so it’s probably still a gun just not a shotgun.
I look at the Steam Machine being a proof of concept device leading to third party development.
There is now a lot of interest in computer markers to make their own machine and Valve is more than happy if they do it at no cost to Valve.
Yeah valve wins regardless of who builds the machines, arguably they win more if someone else builds the machine but regardless they win.
Nintendo is going to make money no matter what
Yup, especially once they start putting out their heavy hitter franchises.
To me, its the price fixing allegations (e.g. dictating the prices of other stores).