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    The built in “app stores” that come on Linux distros are also complete jokes, the ones I’ve tried to use anyways.

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      Why and which did you use? I haven’t had an issue with KDE Discover. Pop Shop was ass a few years back but it works well now that it is “Cosmic Store”.

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        The GNOME one that comes with Debian is useless. There’s like 3 things on it and of course they’re all out of date (Debian thing). It also doesn’t work to uninstall applications. The Ubuntu one of course pushes snaps so it’s no good. The Mint one likewise pushes flatpaks. In general across all of them there never seems to be much listed on them, so going there to browse isn’t useful. I can’t think of any other specific issues but just in general over the past 8 years they are always buggy and annoying to use.

        I haven’t used KDE’s store before.

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        Oh good. I fucking hate the snap store and thought it was my incompetence making it terrible, but here’s at least one other

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        Discover is ok… If you limit it to only managing Flatpaks.

        I’m not sure I’d ever trust a GUI to manage pacman/apt/dnf

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          I think Flatpaks are the future for general user installed apps. It’s way more secure and user friendly for non tech people. I’ve even had some flatpaks run significantly better, like Brave, despite conventional wisdom saying otherwise for a browser.

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          I’m gonna be honest, 99% of what I need to do, I do through Discover. Like, why would I bother typing a command out when the update button is right there.

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          CachyOS now doesn’t even ship with Discover and if you install it there’s a banner warning you not to use it to update base packages as it can mess stuff up.

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            CachyOS now ships with and recommends Shelly, and just from trying to use it I get the feeling it’s fundamentally flawed (both in the front-end and back-end), but I don’t know enough about package management to know for certain.

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              I was wondering about Shelly when I was reading the release notes for Cachy. What do you feel is flawed?

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              Oh wild. I still just hit Cachy Update, because I don’t like Octopi, but I should try that out.

              Tho I was considering giving NixOS a try

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          updates, sure. let discover or gnome software do 'em.

          my debian won’t break the system.

          to install, though? i’d rather see exactly what’s going on. i don’t always want to bring in every tom, dick and recommend. i use aptitude.

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        I actually like both Bazaar and discover. I enjoy using them to just browse for interesting apps. For linux to ever become adoptable for more people, good GUIs are absolute must haves. If you don’t like them that is of course fine, but it serves the greater good to have the option of using them.

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      Truth. Fortunately updating and installing via command line is so easy and quick that I rarely feel the need to use Discover.

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      Who needs app stores anyway

      Software is files, idgaf where they come from

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        Yeah that’s my only real complaint about Linux. I miss the ease of just downloading an exe and double clicking it

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            You can also download and double click executables that have no dependencies (like Pocketbase). The installation process handles resolving dependencies.

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          Ironically I liked Chocolatey package manager on Windows. Hitting update and everything just updates is great. I hate launching a program and it’s like “here’s an update you need to do before using this and if you kick it down the road you’ll forget about it till next time you launch me”