cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/41958206

Open to suggestions for managing Caddy for domains from Porkbun.

  • Porkbun itself is using Cloudflare.
  • Their Caddy module is confusing to setup due to API changes and older documentation.
  • I’d like to use a declarative json configuration, but first I just need Porkbun to play nice enough to work when adding subdomains via wildcard.

The Goal

Setup legit Let’s Encrypt as wildcard locally to test services at *example.domain.com, then put them into production on mainsite wildcard *.domain.com on VPS or similar.

Seeking Advice

Can anyone advise on setup recommendations. I’m currently using Nginx, which I had no difficulty setting up with ACME challenge. Perhaps I’m approaching Caddy in the wrong way. Thanks for any ideas!

  • moonpiedumplings@programming.dev
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    1 day ago

    Setup legit Let’s Encrypt as wildcard locally to test services at *example.domain.com, then put them into production on mainsite wildcard *.domain.com on VPS or similar.

    Just to be clear, why wouldn’t simply provisioning a certificate for each subdomain under the wildcard work?

    Like, if you have a test site test.example.domain.com, you could have nginx (using acme) create a certificate for that. And then when you move to test.domain.com, nginx would do the same thing.

    Now, technically letsencrypt does have a rate limit, but it’s a fairly generous rate limit:

    Up to 50 certificates can be issued per registered domain (or IPv4 address, or IPv6 /64 range) every 7 days. This is a global limit, and all new order requests, regardless of which account submits them, count towards this limit. The ability to issue new certificates for the same registered domain refills at a rate of 1 certificate every 202 minutes.

    I would do my testing this way, and I didn’t hit any limits, although I was careful to keep certificates and reuse them, and to not spam.

    If you need more domains with SSL than that rate limit would provide, then it would make sense to investigate Caddy with porkbun, since DNS-01 challenges are the only way to get wildcard certificates, which apply to a whole wildcard.

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      1 day ago

      I wasn’t aware of that they managed registered domains the way they do. I may need to reconcider my certificate setup currently, as I currently run a certificate per service because its more secure and looked cleaner, but if they count x.website.com certificates as website.com certificates, its entirely possible that when they switch to short lived certificate defaults I may come close to that rate limit.

      • i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de
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        24 hours ago

        If they cut the validity time for certificates, I’d expect them to also increase the rate limits by a corresponding amount. It’s not like they have anything to gain by making it so regular users can’t use the service anymore. They can’t upsell you to Lets Encrypt Premium with a higher rate limit.

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          23 hours ago

          Yea hopefully. I know that short lived certs is currently an additional parameter when requesting, hopefully when the default changes they will have a higher rate limit. That won’t be for quite some time though I expect.