i used to be a pretty big woman, 5’10/180 lbs. then i transitioned. same height (height gain on t is basically not real, unfortunately), and i weigh around 200 lbs. but now it’s WAY more muscle (no more boobs + at around 20% bodyfat). i’m built like a fucking tank now, i feel like i occupy so much more space horizontally. my neck and shoulders and arms and legs and everything are so much THICKER
(also, it turns out, men eat WAY MORE than women, too. all this extra mass doesn’t support itself 💀 easily need an extra 1000+ calories nowadays)
Men eat so much more than women, it’s a little crazy to witness sometimes! My partner is almost always willing to clear my plate after he’s cleared his and I’m so full I can hardly move haha
Age and activity level plays a big role here. For instance, a 30-40s mildly active man of avg weight might eat less than a smaller 20-30s active woman.
N of 2, but for example my partner (F) is a bit younger than me (M), and also a cyclist (about 3-4 times my volume of riding). She can easily out eat me, and will finish my plate despite being over 20% lighter than me.
Testosterone is literally a steroid. It’s sort of a reductive statement but you don’t really think about it often.
It basically acts as a multiplier for the “grow muscle” signals your body can produce.
Men and women can easily have the same outcomes for muscle mass and calorie requirements, but men might not have to work as hard to get there owing to the higher testosterone multiplier on average.
I’ve also heard that it makes your skin act weird. Several trans people I’ve talked to have all mentioned that getting their hormones managed made their skin care routine either way easier or harder in a sort of “holy shit” way.
I’ve also heard that it makes your skin act weird. Several trans people I’ve talked to have all mentioned that getting their hormones managed made their skin care routine either way easier or harder in a sort of “holy shit” way.
can confirm. skin got 100% softer after testosterone blockers.
100%! I meant my statement as building on yours, not contradicting. :)
Any time you talk about hormones you have to couch everything in a thick layer of “usually”, “often”, and “tend”. Biology varies a lot, and hormones vary more than most of the stuff.
i’ve recently seen my cousin (22M) eat a whole plate of noodles with sour cream, then another one. i felt like i’m seeing a fire storm eat up a rack of dry wood or sth. meanwhile i eat like 3 tomatoes and am full :P
The eating thing is too real. I saw an adorable Mexican waif taking her lunch break the other day when I was eating my own lunch. She got some sort of enchilada type thing from Taco Bell, where she works so she can make her own dishes, while I got my normal Supreme Luxe Box.
For comparison, my meal comes with chips and cheese, a taco, a chalupa, a burrito, and a drink. She had a single burrito covered in red sauce. She ate half, packaged it up and took the rest home. I vacuumed up the crumbs from my wrappers.
Admittedly I can probably use her as a dumbbell/ bar weight, provided she can plank properly. I would guess that she is 162-167 cm, and 49-50 kg. I’m 192-193 cm and 104kg
i mean, i got a recumbent etrike for getting around town. i get my exercises and my funs in at the same time i do my chores.
i’m incredibly fortunate that where i live has extant infrastructure for that. 20 years ago two lycra dudes got theirselves elected to city council and county controller, uh, i don’t remember what those boards are called but they got the infrastructure in. also helped a lot with the homeless programs so like, i like these lycra dudes.
Yeah bike infrastructure has got a lot better here too. I live in a small town and don’t even need a car, it’s great.
The homeless programs could really use some more support though. We got plenty of fancy private condos and overpriced rentals going up, so I fear we got the bougie nimby type of lycra dudes
i’m not really a big gym guy, my activity is largely functional, although sometimes i’m fudging it (been taking a large box of stuff on a walk, for example)
there’s some newer science showing artificial loading of weight will lead to a reduction in bodyfat, so i’ve been wearing a weighted vest. between that and walking a lot, i have lost a lot of bodyfat but also built substantial muscle because… i’m heavier
so maybe something like that could help you get workouts in?
I guess I meant more like getting strong. I have a hard time keeping my bench stats up since I’ve got a whiny back and cardio is more my thing (endorphins).
Personally, I try not to focus on body fat because that feels more negative to me. Like I’d rather focus on feeling good and making gains than losing weight. Less guilt involved imho.
Meh, count your blessings. I know a guy that is over 6’8 and super thin. I am rather of average height and width, and still able to fit comfortably into seats.
that said, i only started working out after being on testosterone for a couple of years. and in those first few years, i still got substantially bigger just from the testosterone. so i mean, the testosterone effect is real lol
it’s CRAZY how much bigger men are than women
i used to be a pretty big woman, 5’10/180 lbs. then i transitioned. same height (height gain on t is basically not real, unfortunately), and i weigh around 200 lbs. but now it’s WAY more muscle (no more boobs + at around 20% bodyfat). i’m built like a fucking tank now, i feel like i occupy so much more space horizontally. my neck and shoulders and arms and legs and everything are so much THICKER
(also, it turns out, men eat WAY MORE than women, too. all this extra mass doesn’t support itself 💀 easily need an extra 1000+ calories nowadays)
Men eat so much more than women, it’s a little crazy to witness sometimes! My partner is almost always willing to clear my plate after he’s cleared his and I’m so full I can hardly move haha
Age and activity level plays a big role here. For instance, a 30-40s mildly active man of avg weight might eat less than a smaller 20-30s active woman.
N of 2, but for example my partner (F) is a bit younger than me (M), and also a cyclist (about 3-4 times my volume of riding). She can easily out eat me, and will finish my plate despite being over 20% lighter than me.
Testosterone is literally a steroid. It’s sort of a reductive statement but you don’t really think about it often.
It basically acts as a multiplier for the “grow muscle” signals your body can produce.
Men and women can easily have the same outcomes for muscle mass and calorie requirements, but men might not have to work as hard to get there owing to the higher testosterone multiplier on average.
I’ve also heard that it makes your skin act weird. Several trans people I’ve talked to have all mentioned that getting their hormones managed made their skin care routine either way easier or harder in a sort of “holy shit” way.
can confirm. skin got 100% softer after testosterone blockers.
True, and my above statement could be due to testosterone reduction with age in many cases. Testosterone levels also have huge variances in men.
100%! I meant my statement as building on yours, not contradicting. :)
Any time you talk about hormones you have to couch everything in a thick layer of “usually”, “often”, and “tend”. Biology varies a lot, and hormones vary more than most of the stuff.
hah yeah :)
i’ve recently seen my cousin (22M) eat a whole plate of noodles with sour cream, then another one. i felt like i’m seeing a fire storm eat up a rack of dry wood or sth. meanwhile i eat like 3 tomatoes and am full :P
The eating thing is too real. I saw an adorable Mexican waif taking her lunch break the other day when I was eating my own lunch. She got some sort of enchilada type thing from Taco Bell, where she works so she can make her own dishes, while I got my normal Supreme Luxe Box.
For comparison, my meal comes with chips and cheese, a taco, a chalupa, a burrito, and a drink. She had a single burrito covered in red sauce. She ate half, packaged it up and took the rest home. I vacuumed up the crumbs from my wrappers.
Admittedly I can probably use her as a dumbbell/ bar weight, provided she can plank properly. I would guess that she is 162-167 cm, and 49-50 kg. I’m 192-193 cm and 104kg
This makes me want to work out more. I’m basically wasting my T on baldness occessonally getting angry when I should be sad lol
i mean, i got a recumbent etrike for getting around town. i get my exercises and my funs in at the same time i do my chores.
i’m incredibly fortunate that where i live has extant infrastructure for that. 20 years ago two lycra dudes got theirselves elected to city council and county controller, uh, i don’t remember what those boards are called but they got the infrastructure in. also helped a lot with the homeless programs so like, i like these lycra dudes.
Yeah bike infrastructure has got a lot better here too. I live in a small town and don’t even need a car, it’s great.
The homeless programs could really use some more support though. We got plenty of fancy private condos and overpriced rentals going up, so I fear we got the bougie nimby type of lycra dudes
i’m not really a big gym guy, my activity is largely functional, although sometimes i’m fudging it (been taking a large box of stuff on a walk, for example)
there’s some newer science showing artificial loading of weight will lead to a reduction in bodyfat, so i’ve been wearing a weighted vest. between that and walking a lot, i have lost a lot of bodyfat but also built substantial muscle because… i’m heavier
so maybe something like that could help you get workouts in?
I guess I meant more like getting strong. I have a hard time keeping my bench stats up since I’ve got a whiny back and cardio is more my thing (endorphins).
Personally, I try not to focus on body fat because that feels more negative to me. Like I’d rather focus on feeling good and making gains than losing weight. Less guilt involved imho.
I thought you were going to say that at 5’10 as a woman you were considered quite tall and now as a dude 5’10 is average.
😄😭 it’s still pretty tall… i could be a lot worse off. i’m not really interested in attracting the same crowd that most men are, anyways
Fair enough and I don’t disagree. As a dude who is a chest hair off 6ft I rarely feel small but damn there’s still way taller dudes always!
Meh, count your blessings. I know a guy that is over 6’8 and super thin. I am rather of average height and width, and still able to fit comfortably into seats.
Bro, do you lift for gains?
mostly answered here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/21006653
sorry, idk how to do instance-agnostic links 😭
that said, i only started working out after being on testosterone for a couple of years. and in those first few years, i still got substantially bigger just from the testosterone. so i mean, the testosterone effect is real lol