• sen@lemmy.zip
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    Awful as in he was responsible for day one DLC and microtransactions or awful as in he raped and murdered children?

    There’s a spectrum and I’m not sure which end of it he’s on based on your comments.

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        11 hours ago

        Actually yeah, and aside from being co-founder of Ubisoft with his brothers I couldn’t find much. He ran some other audio company. Literally nothing that justifies people talking about shitting on his grave.

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      I don’t play Ubisoft games. I don’t have a horse in that race.

      He’s awful because he was one of the money-addicted ownership class that collectively are ruining our world to fuel their addictions. Everyone in that class is a piece of shit and I don’t find much value in trying to determine the particular vintage of shit we’re dealing with. There are no “good guys” here.

      I won’t wish death or harm on any of them, but I’ll certainly not shed a tear if karma gets them.

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        You need therapy.

        I think you and I would agree that billionaires aren’t people, and I long for the day in which we dismember them and feed them to the pigs, but this guy wasn’t a billionaire. He was a successful video game developer who co-founded an awful company.

        I’m not saying he was a saint, I don’t mourn his passing, but I’m also not celebrating his death as his crimes pale in comparison to the ruling class.

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          He was a member of the ruling class. What the hell are you talking about? He was a board member and co-founder of a corporation with a valuation in the billions of dollars. Yeah, sure, he wasn’t a billionaire but they aren’t the only problem. He certainly had a lot less in common with poors like you and me, especially since the corporation he was part of wasn’t exactly championing labor rights.

          And yeah I’m sure I do need therapy. But guess what’s one of many things I can’t afford thanks to rich assholes like this guy?

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            We’re talking about a fuckong video game company.

            Touch grass.

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              A video game company with a valuation in the billions of dollars, yes. Of which this guy was a co-founder and board member, meaning he was doing quite well for himself.

              Does it not count because “it’s just video games lmao”? Would it be better if it was a music label or film studio?

              Maybe instead of touching grass, you should pay more attention to the class war his type are waging against ours.

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                So what’s the cutoff for you then? If a person has more than $10 million does their life no longer matter? $5 million? What exact net-worth cutoff indicates they’re a cretin who is hellbent on enslaving the working class?

                We live in a capitalist society. Even here in Canada where I have access to more socialized services, it’s still a capitalist society. People are going to make money - sometimes it’s borne of privilege, other times hard work, and sometimes the amount is egregious, but in my eyes the hard cutoff is whether or not they are a billionaire and/or use that money to influence policy.

                Being wealthy at the age of 70 after spending literal decades growing one of the largest video game companies is not a crime and does not by default make this guy an awful person - AND - the amount paid to execs in many cases is disproportionate and would be better spent uplifting those who do the actual work.

                I can believe both of those things simultaneously while not punching down at a dead guy who was not a billionaire. Why can’t you?

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                  how about be a decent human being that isn’t fucking over someone, doesn’t seem that hard

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                  The difference between 10 million dollars and a billion dollars is roughly 1 billion dollars

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                  I’m not punching down. I’m punching up. This dude didn’t give a rat’s ass about the people who made him wealthy while he was alive, so why is he owed consideration by those same people just because he’s dead?

                  Why does growing a company matter, if it’s done by stealing the wages of the people that are producing the growth?

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                    And where were you to punch up when he was alive? Ah right, on the internet being a keyboard warrior.

                    You’re making an awful lot of claims about somebody you don’t have any actual information on or had even heard of before they died based on what, perceived net worth? General dislike of large companies? Or maybe you’re projecting.

                    I’m not here to mourn this guy or defend him, if you remember how this conversation started I was looking for a reason to piss on his grave right beside you, but I can’t find one. Dude was nearly 70, had nothing to do with the day-to-day at Ubi for who knows how long, living his life until he wasn’t. No scandal, no donating to MAGA, no Epstein association, no union-busting. Just a higher than average net worth though I don’t think he was in the 1%.

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          so he’s bad but not evil incarnate so we should not be happy he’s dead?

          what kinda snivel is this?

          dude was a net negative in the world, go spend your effort caring on someone actually good

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        What’s wrong with people making money because other people buy their video games? Are they hurting someone?

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          It’s a matter of scale, and what they do with the money. Wealth hoarding has reached the point where it’s a cause of inflation. The top 1% (and even moreso, the 1% of that 1%) have hoarded ao much wealth, and do nothing but essentially sit on that wealth, that it makes life more expensive for all of us in the working class.

          Strictly speaking, yes they absolutely are hurting someone. Wage theft is a significant issue we face today.