• mlg@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Windows 10 only exists because of how much Windows 8 sucked.

    Windows 7 also only exists because of how much Windows Vista sucked lol.

    XP and 7 was Microsoft at their best. They’ll never reach those heights ever again.

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      4 hours ago

      Even Vista was ok, it was just pre-installed on computers that could barely run it and UAC was overtuned but it was solid with the later service packs.

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        Yea, vista was the ME problem all over again.

        People running it on old hardware and old software wasn’t written to use UAC yet.

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      The only thing that sucked about windows 8 was their decision to force mobile friendly UI on everyone. Seems to be reoccurring issue.

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      Windows 7 was the peak. everything since has been a decline.

      Windows 7 was the first Windows OS that didnt require constant reboots, didnt require regular reformat/reinstalls to fix random over time slowdowns/degredation/crashes/etc.

      Windows 7 had a relatively light weight, and very easy to use interface.

      Windows 7 was the last Windows OS that you actually owned when you bought it.

      Every OS after Windows 7 was centered on taking control and usability away from the owner/user.

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        iirc microsoft began going heavy on telemetry (and consequently cutting their QA and testing budget) at some point during Windows 7. That’s why it went downhill after that (Windows 8 and after)

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          Yeah, that was towards the end of windows life, after win10s release… and it was added as a windows update package, and as a result was easily uninstallable.

          and every news article i saw informing people about the telemetry update, also told people how to uninstall it

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      Win11 has been fine for me at home and for the laptops I managed at my last job. Start your machine, skip through the install questions, reboot to USB with a MS ISO, install, done without all the factory bullshit.

      Yes, that’s a minor pain, but it’s a tradeoff against post-install configuration with Linux. Either way, it’s hella better than the old days of struggling with pre and post install.

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        This might surprise you, but I don’t think anyone here is complaining about ease of installation… The “factory bullshit” is built right in to Windows now, and trying to remove it goes way beyond “post-install configuration”.

        Also, as someone who’s done server deployments… doing automated linux installs is trivial.