Why is American internal politics in my technology feed?
They ruin everything, macro and micro
I am not American. I don’t want to hear about your internal politics. I have already enough work activating for the EU ones.
would require users to disclose personal information before accessing lawful speech online
That’s a relief, as I fully intend to break whatever law it is and continue discussions with you gentlefolk unlawfully.
Start downloading and stockpiling all the porn you can!
Way ahead of you
Genuinely, when online ID starts being rolled out, I will no longer be an inside person. I will just have to do woodworking, mechanical, or literally anything else. I refuse to partake in such stupidity.
Same here. I might end up spending a good chunk of my free time at the local park with a chess board and a music player with two sets of headphones, inviting strangers to play, listen and chat. If they take away my ability to broadcast shitposts and critique of the regime on the internet, I’ll dedicate myself to individually turning my neighbors into angry leftists one long afternoon at a time.
Like, there are other, better ways to get involved, yes; but I’m talking about how I spend my free time, what I do for shits and giggles. This is normally filled with video games and internet shitposting, and so help me the last thing this government wants to do is give more people like me, more free time.
I’ll pitch in. I saw this coming in 2023, sold a lot of PC hardware and pivoted to Cameras and bought some hard drives to fill up with media, and I’ve done tons of hiking, almost every trail on my side of my state and some that aren’t. Picked up pipesmoking, made some buddies there in that community, branched away from the hustle and bustle, started a massive ebook collection and I’ve read anything I can find that doesn’t start with “Nutrition Facts”.
If anyone is worried about the internet, now ain’t the time to worry, now’s the time to get moving and get done what you need done before the gate closes for good.
“we lost?”
Like a piss in the wind, there wasn’t even a fight.
I mean you could shitpost from the park while you wait for someone to play too
not if I have to give someone my ID to shitpost, I’m not
We need an Internet 2.0 invite only. no bots, governments, or companies allowed.
So, like onion?
The People’s Internet!
…with blackjack and hookers…?
The Internet inherently routes around malfunctioning network segments.
Any law like those mentioned will be used to legitimize selective enforcement, only against those who upset the wrong important person.
Stay anonymous and locked down, don’t comment from your point of origin. Don’t use corporate services.
Don’t use corporate services.
The vast majority of the ethernet, cable, and fiber that connects people is owned by a corporation.
I hate this argument because it misses the bigger point that the infrastructure of the internet is not publicly owned but is privately owned by corporations.
Build community LANs that aren’t connected to the internet. Use sneakernets to share information via USB. Use encrypted LoRa for messaging among community members.
Yes, I see a future of two “internets”. One corporate and another for the people. The People’s Internet will be deemed illegal and hunted down. Seems like there’s a movie there somewhere…
A move with a lot of “I’m in”.
If that headline is true, it’s allresdy too late
I guess Heinlein was like armed society is Luigi society or something
Dude you’re already fucked. Have been for decades at this point.
Well, too bad; Donny is good at bad deals.
They may make their law, but can they enforce it?
Edit2 : I misunderstood the breadth of that bill and you can ignore the rest of my post below. I suggest reading my last comment on this post that links to the EFF report on the No Fakes Act.
Sorry !
The NO FAKES Act create a broad, new right to restrict AI-generated depictions of a person’s voice and likeness — and in the process expose users, creators, platforms, and developers to lawsuits for everyday speech like memes and parodies.
For the other two laws I completely agree that they are dangerous.
But for the NO FAKES act, in my opinion it’s actually a useful one. AI fakes in my opinion serve no purpose and can very easily be used to spread misinformation. And as far as I can tell as long as you meme without using generative AI you can caricature and mock your politics as long as you want.
I’m surprised a community that is very much anti-AI seems to oppose this NO FAKES act ?
Bear in mind that I’m commenting from the perspective of an European so our conception of freedom of speech and its limitations is culturally different.
I’m certain AI fakes will be used nefariously to manipulate voters and if the cost is AI memes, so be it.
It’s too bad this article conflates privacy invading laws with a law restricting the use of generative AI which is pretty much completely unregulated as of now ?
Edit : We have an EU regulation for this type of AI fakes coming into effect in August 2026 for anyone interested :
The EU AI Act is the world’s first comprehensive law on Artificial Intelligence and applies across all EU member states. It doesn’t ban deepfakes but imposes strict transparency obligations to ensure citizens are not unknowingly deceived. It is set to take effect on August 2, 2026.
Without dogging too far, it seems like the law is broadly worded enough to open the door for all sorts of SLAPP-type takedowns, a bit like how DMCA is weaponized against people that don’t have armies of lawyers.
Also, the other source (not the bill itself, mind you, so might be wrong) says “digitally generated”, not “AI generated”, which could be stretched to apply to any image manipulation, like cropping.
Then of course there’s the question of reliably differentiating between AI and non-AI. Which basically means whoever has the biggest legal cannon to fire at the other guy wins.
I tried checking the actual bill and it seems you are correct and its target is not only limited to AI generated fakes but everything digital.
I have now found a summary of the EFF about the NO FAKES act and I’m most likely misunderstanding the breadth of that bill :
https://www.eff.org/files/2024/09/12/2024.11_no_fakes_one_pager.pdf
I almost blindly trust the EFF on these types of questions, they have been an invaluable ressource even in Europe to protect citizens.
I suppose the European approach is probably safer here since it doesn’t limit speech but mandates transparency on AI fakes.
Unless there’s also a flawless system that can decide what is and isn’t AI generated, it will just be used to shut down anything anti government, while keeping pro government slop up. The way EU did it sounds better, but could still be abused in the same manner - just take down anything the government doesn’t like and say it was because they didn’t label it as AI generated, have fun going through the court system trying to prove it wasn’t.
I have since edited my original comment.
AI fakes will always be an issue. Nothing will ever prevent someone from creating AI content and passing it as real. Especially with the complete lack of regulations on AI model makers. At the same time AI fakes are inherently dangerous for democracies in the sense that anybody could anonymously spread misleading fakes all over social network to disrupt the democratic process and it would be very difficult to fight.
I don’t know what solutions we can find for that. I guess we will see in the EU if our approach is effective or not. Or if it is abused to censor speech. Considering our own lawmakers are also digitally illiterate I wouldn’t be surprised if there is loopholes to exploit.
