Well, we’ve artificially inflated the price of steel, electronics and consumable resources like fuel and electricity required to build cars in the US. I can’t imagine that we would even be competitive building anything right now.
Don’t forget years of short sighted manufacturing enabled by the insane dealership system.
And, I guess enough research and development to realize that you’re a decade or so behind the competition.
Sure they do. It’s double down on ICE and block the import of foreign EV.
The US also has huge trade deficits in mangoes and sports shoes. So what?
Only idiots like Trump think all bilateral trade flows should balance.
This article wont go away
sure it does.
shitting your pants has worked out well so far, just keep doing that.
Seems like the simple solution is to buy their cars and focus on producing something else.
I got an answer, give up and let the Chinese EVs in. or just reinvent public transportation for the future and stop wasting ungodly amount of resources for Ford F-150s everywhere
If we let the Chinese evs in they would out sell too many ice or hybrid cars and reduce our consumption of oil, as well as bring too much competition to our “free” market. We can’t have that, think of all the money spent in lobbying to keep us dependent on oil! And people might not buy electric cars from their favourite eccentric Nazi if there’s an alternative and that absolutely cannot fly! Ugh it’s the same story over and over again with American companies. Perform like dog shit, piss and moan that sales are tough because of those pesky foreign doing it better, tarrifs the competition out of competition and beg big govt for a nice bail out. Been happening over and over since at least the 60s in at least automotive industry. People who use USA as an example of capitalism = bad are totally missing the point that USA is socialism for rich people at the expense of capitalism, as a real capitalist would love to buy BYD in USA. Capitalism needs to be constrained with regulation sure, but not in a way that benefits your “representatives” favourite private corpo
SHOCKING REVELATION: US lacks clue
It’s over tbh. U can be a genius with 50 phds this trajectory was like this for decades
US won’t have an answer. Obama invested in battery research, Trump shut it down, Biden invested in battery manufacture, Trump shut it down. During this time, Chinese industry secured a supply chain from raw ore mining to making batteries with patents. US has no IP in batteries.
Same thing is happening with drug discovery, it’s all China for the next decade.
If by “the U.S.” you mean Bonespurs, not having answers goes without saying. But that aberration won’t keep wasting oxygen forever.
Oh It does… They prevent China EV makers from partaking in their “free market” and force you domestic suckers to keep slurping up the status-quo.
The US government is falling all over itself to fellate the oil and gas industry to protect their profits. They have blocked EVs in every way possible.
China doesn’t give a fuck about the US Church of Profits and is building renewable energy and EVs faster than the rest of the world combined.
The west has already lost. China won. China will be in charge in the very near future.
They are just as profit-driven as US corporations are. They are also leading the world in coal mining.
And I remember people singing the same song about Japan in the late 70s as they do about China now. Extrapolation works perfectly in a world with no limiting factors.
Fuck it, at this point lets give China a shot. They have issues, lots of them, but Europe isn’t going to compete any time soon, and at least China doesn’t switch between telling you you’re friends, and stabbing you in the back every 4-8 years.
The solution is putting their fingers in their ears, screaming “No one wants EVs anyway” “America no1!” “USA! USA! USA!”.
You know, same solution they’ve always used.
Of course not, the current US government is actively hostile toward EVs and green energy. Why do all these headlines frame this as if it’s so surprising?
US: shoots itself in the foot “WHY ISN’T CHINA LIMPING AS HARD AS I AM?!?!?!?”
Setting aside fascism, the solution is expanded train infrastructure.
People in here are talking about battery IP but that’s not as important as simple BEV production capacity. An EV is dead simple mechanically but you’ve gotta have the raw resources and factories to keep up. Even then, the US would need to do some major infrastructure upgrades to support a bunch of heavy and plug-hungry EVs.
Trains are a big investment but getting track laid and a few hundred thousand running is much more manageable than trying to replace ~280 million ICE vehicles (97.9% of all US vehicles in 2023).
I predict China is going to feel the same car dependence pain in a few decades if they continue to ramp production and climb the cars-per-capita leader board. It’s crazy expensive to keep millions of people puttering around in multi-ton metal boxes.
I predict China is going to feel the same car dependence pain in a few decades if they continue to ramp production and climb the cars-per-capita leader board. It’s crazy expensive to keep millions of people puttering around in multi-ton metal boxes.
Ahh I don’t think they’re going the way of the US in that regards:
Wikipedia data is a little old, but…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_China
"China’s railways are the busiest in the world. In 2019, railways in China delivered 3.660 billion passenger trips, generating 1,470.66 billion passenger-kilometres and carried 4.389 billion tonnes of freight, generating 3,018 billion cargo tonne-kilometres.[1] Freight traffic turnover has increased more than fivefold over the period 1980–2013 and passenger traffic turnover has increased more than sevenfold over the same period.[10] During the five years 2016–2020, China’s railway network handled 14.9 billion passenger trips, 9 billion of which were completed by bullet trains, the remaining 5.9 billion by conventional rail. "
This is the Chinese govt site
https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202506/06/content_WS6842d8f6c6d0868f4e8f31d9.html
"China’s railway system transported more than 4.31 billion passengers in 2024, up 11.9 percent year on year, according to the National Railway Administration.
Railway cargo transportation volume approached 5.18 billion tonnes last year, reflecting a 2.8-percent growth compared to the previous year.
In terms of investment, China’s railway sector saw fixed-asset investment amount to 850.6 billion yuan (around 118.39 billion U.S. dollars) in 2024. During the same period, 3,113 km of new railway lines were inaugurated, about 79 percent of which are high-speed railways.
As the modern railway network continued to expand, China’s total operational length of lines reached 162,000 km in 2024, including over 48,000 km of high-speed railway lines.
Furthermore, railway transportation remained safe, stable, and orderly throughout 2024, with no severe railway traffic accidents in China, the administration added."
TL;DR They’re doing plenty of rail
