Now if Mozilla would finally get a CEO who is not driven by stupid capitalistic bullshit, I would actually start using Firefox again.
Until then, I stick to WaterFox.
Isn’t waterdox owned by a weird company?
Not anymore. It’s owned by the creator again.
Why not LibreWolf?
Too locked down for the average user.
It is? I didn’t notice anything. I suppose by virtue of having even heard of it I’m not the average user.
Some websites don’t work correctly, due to the strict settings.
I guess I don’t view those types of sites on my Pc (probably on my phone).
Nice but it’s kinda wierd how people decided to use these browsers after this new law was passed, I mean it’s so easy to install apps on smartphones right now but people needed this choice screen to choose another browser of their liking? I would guess it’s probably old people that switched that didn’t know how to install browser without it, I googled but couldn’t find any prove of this tho so it’s just my guts
It’s like browser war 1.0 all over again but only on mobile…
(Microsoft had to do the exact same thing after they preinstalled Internet Explorer with Windows)
it’s so easy to install apps on smartphones right now
Providing choice as a default is precisely about people who are influenced by defaults. It’s NOT about how feasible something technically is.
It isn’t that weird. Users have a very low tolerance for independence, especially as tech markets itself to less and less tech savvy userbases(like Gen alpha and z). They do what their screens tell them to for the most part.
like Gen alpha and z
As a gen Z who started with Linux with 12, daily driven it since 14 and dipped into Gentoo and arch at 15, I feel offended
Autistic children will be discluded from the study for skewing results.
It’s laziness. Most people just take the path of the least resistance.
Once you show them the screen, any choice is the same amount of work so they will select what they really want. But without the screen, 90% of people will be good enough with the default option. Or, they might even be mildly uncomfortable with that option, but not enough to do something about it.
It’s laziness. Most people just take the path of the least resistance.
we all do in many parts of life
I didn’t say it’s a bad thing. If someone tried to pay attention to every little choice they make, they would be exhausted before the morning coffee.
What kind of browser I use is important to me, since I am a geek. But I don’t pay attention to many things that more socially adept people would consider important.
the trick is to know what is worth paying attention to and what is not
How do?
some things are worth your time and some things are not, you yourself decide what is what. You just have to know what is important to you and consider things that affect that. And to also know what things are not worth giving a fuck. The capitalist society also trys to make you care about worthless things so those too will fill up your attention.
So in essence, if something isnt important to you and not caring about it doesnt make your life more difficult, let that thing go.
If someone tried to pay attention to every little choice they make, they would be exhausted before the morning coffee.
Story of my life.
same
Yeah I guess people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech, it’s so normalized today, in my university (I am a student) when I tell people I don’t use Instagram or TikTok and whatnot they look at me like I am crazy, tbh maybe if we define crazy as “not doing what everyone around you does” maybe I am
people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech
I was one of those people some time ago. I remember doing it deliberately and saying “what will they do to me? Offer me a product that better suits my needs?”
I never had any issues because of that…
right now I decline each time, the more work it costs me, the more motivated I am to decline every single marketing consent.
I do it out of spite, because of all the enshitification happening to services I used to like, and I just try to make their life harder.
I really hope that Google will, some day, miss one cent needed for some huge multi billion deal thanks to my resistance! ;)
people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech
To be fair, we haven’t had all the consequences of it hit the population yet.
Surveillance pricing might change the narrative
If people are going to talk about the details of their divorce in a tiktok video I doubt they care much that someone is tracking what products they looked at on amazon.
Chrome disabling ad-blocking doesn’t hurt either.
i’ve legit seen many people who have no idea what a web browser is, internet == chrome/safari/edge (which opens automatically when clicking a link on some app) for them. this isn’t just older people, actually it’s usually worse with younger people.
Meet my wife! Since this screen, she uses the duckduckgo browser (iOS) Idk why, she neither, but she is happy with it.
If i want the internet, I tap on the little internet app. Wth is a browser?
If something is good enough to do what you want you have no real motivation to change. People posting here are far more concerned about privacy than most people based on how much people seem to voluntarily share online anyway.
Really we should all just be using GNOME Web on a fresh Debian install. It makes me feel relaxed just thinking about it.
There is something humorous to the fact that these users have waited until Firefox has begun the AI enshitification process before switching to it. It’s like they just had to wait until it was no longer the clear. Good choice before they made the switch.
The AI stuff is behind a switch I have not seen a single AI feature while using Firefix nor do I see any ads
Firefox lets you implicitly disable or remove them, slop browsers do not.
I don’t like AI either but lets not pretend there’s an equivalency between these browsers.
But this is talking about users who switched to Firefox only AFTER being presented with a choice directly in their face. The Firefox AI options are turned on by default, and I can’t remember if it was easily guided to turn them off. So this group may not find that an easy solution, or find it at all.
Firefox has begun the AI enshitification process
Dude, it’s like five things – one of which is just translations that can be performed locally, and another of which is an alt text accessibility option – with an obvious universal kill switch (and of course individualized ones). Calm your tits. Chill your balls. I don’t use LLMs at all except for translations, and I still think the whinging over this is completely overblown.
“Begun” implies a slippery slope of much more, and that just doesn’t seem to be the case.
Lol, ok chief.
FireFox was enhittified even before the AI bits: it fucking spies on you
That’s why I use LibreWolf , which is literally just the latest-stable FF build, but with all the AI and telemetry ripped out, uBlock Origin and anti-fingerprinting enabled by default.
It’s literally what FireFox was supposed to be. And they don’t even accept money . God level.
