• AF_R [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 hours ago

    Thank you for speaking your truth. I need you to keep doing this and showing the people how evil China is.

    Because goddamn am I going to make a lot of money off my Chinese investments because of people like you lmfao

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      1 hour ago

      I don’t even hate China. It’s possible to understand that US Propaganda is a problem and also understand that both the US and China have committed some very deploy atrocities.

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        58 minutes ago

        It’s possible to understand that US Propaganda is a problem

        So why you believe them?

        China have committed some very deploy atrocities.

        So focus on real ones and not the bullshit ones.

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          46 minutes ago

          I don’t believe human rights violations committed against Muslims in China is bullshit.

          Y’all just believe whatever foreign governments say? I bet you believe that Israel isn’t committing genocide against Palestine.

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            41 minutes ago

            If you want to play a game send me a source of the humans rights violations and I’ll try to find where their are citing Adrian Zenz.

            If you believe in anything Adrian Zenz has to say you are a fool.

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              23 minutes ago

              Can you tell me about why he is untrustworthy? I’m arguing with a lot of people in the comments but that’s just people being jerks without giving any real reasoning or arguments, but I’m open to learning about other points of view on many topics if it’s a respectful conversation.

              EDIT: I double checked the Amnesty International report and it doesn’t seem to source Zenz from what I can tell.

              Here’s a link.

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            43 minutes ago

            We have endless footage of the genocide in Gaza despite the massive surveillance from Israel, we have no footage of any genocide in Xinjiang, serious allegations like that need evidence

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              32 minutes ago

              So if Israel had only captured Palestinians and put them in forced labor camps or sterilized women you wouldn’t believe that either? Human rights violations only count if you blow up a building I guess.

              I don’t understand your logic.

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                the only evidence we have come from clearly biases sources; either directly from the western gov’ts or organizations that are enabled by western gov’ts.

                evidence from gaza comes from some random guy on the streets with a smartphone.

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                  But the only reports we have of it being a hoax are from China. I don’t want to trust either government. I don’t see why we would blindly believe one jus because it’s the opposition.

                  I’m sort of in the middle. Yes, human rights violations have been happening there but, also that Western governments exaggerated or embellish reports on it.

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                    there are plenty of non-chinese sources that say this (eg UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Amsterdam University Academics, etc.).

                    the problem is that these viewpoints are not parroted by western media, so it’s up to you to look for it rather than been spoonfed propaganda saying that it is happening.

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                Gaza is the most controlled strip of land on Earth, yet we have endless video of carnage

                Xinjiang is a tourist mecca that saw 300 million smartphone-wielding visitors from around the world last year, yet we have zero evidence of abuse

                Make it make sense