Hi, folks. I’m trying my best to do my homework before I come here with questions, but even when trying to be selective about what I’m searching for, it’s often a fire hose of information that’s hard to take in.

I’m trying to prepare for exposing self hosted services to the internet with a reasonable amount of security. Tailscale isn’t going to be a great option for my use cases due to added friction for additional users as well as the total number of users I expect to have, so my goal is to segregate my 1-2 servers from the rest of my home network, so that if they’re compromised, the rest of my network is fine. Based on what I’ve read, I think I want my regular VLAN 1 to be my network as is, and then I can make a separate VLAN for my NAS and, eventually, a mini PC that are hosting services. I want to be able to talk to those devices from VLAN 1 but not the other way around, and I think I can do that with VLAN rules.

I’m trying to follow this Home Network Guy guide, but as it relates to what I’m trying to do, I have a few questions. My network setup is partially constrained by the layout of my apartment and where I can find electrical outlets, so I can only change it so much. Basically, it’s internet in->Verizon’s provided router->living room switch->office switch. The living room switch is sort of a repeater just to make everything reach, but it also connects game consoles, which also double as media streaming machines, like streaming Jellyfin from our own NAS. The NAS, my desktop, and my work PC are all connected to the office switch, and eventually a mini PC will live here full-time as well; as stated above, I want just the NAS and mini PC on their own VLAN. I think what I need to do is put a firewall between my router and the living room switch to define the VLAN rules and tag packets, and then replace the office switch with one that understands VLAN tags. So my questions are:

  1. In that guide, he has a firewall mini PC that costs about $540. A quick search on Amazon results in similar machines ranging from $100 to almost $600. It’s not going to break the bank in either case, but I don’t want to buy something I don’t need, and I can’t tell what “too much” or “not enough” is.
  2. I’d prefer not to replace the Verizon router if I don’t have to, because I’m not sure how much of my service depends on it, so assuming that’s possible to leave untouched, would it then connect to the firewall’s WAN port or LAN port? If it’s not serving as the router itself, I’d imagine LAN, and then I’d need at least two LAN ports on the firewall device, but I just wanted to be sure.
  3. There are two hops before any packet makes it to its destination in the office; do both switches need to be managed switches for the VLAN tags to stay intact? Or just the office switch?
  4. Is there anything in the above that I’ve gotten so wrong that it somehow invalidates my questions, and I’m further away from understanding this than I think I am?

Thanks for any help you folks can offer!

  • irmadlad@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    For one, he spec’d a Protectli VP2420. You are going to pay for the Protectli brand name. They are great boxes no doubt, but you could most likely find the same spec as the Protectli VP2420, in something cheaper. Two, I think on eBay, things are priced by how much the vendor thinks he can get. If it’s a bid scenario, they probably have a minimum purchase price set. Most often, I just select the ‘Buy It Now’ option and save myself the hassle of getting into an endless bidding war which is usually manipulated by the vendor using multiple eBay accounts or ‘friends’. That is, unless I think I can save several hundred dollars on something.

    Perusing eBay, wow, yes prices have gone up. It’s been quite a while since I’ve bought any new devices. However, I think you could get away with a suitable firewall device for around the $300 +/- if you did some shopping.