Apple CEO Tim Cook is stepping down as Apple's chief executive officer, and hardware engineering chief John Ternus is set to take over, Apple announced today. Cook will continue on as Apple CEO through the summer, with Ternus set to join Apple's Board of Directors and take over as CEO on September 1, 2026.
I seriously could do a better job than him. I have so many friends and family that used to be diehard apple fans to the point of nausea, that now think of it as a meh kind of company.
Cook’s expertise was in the logistics. He’s definitely not been a great leader for them putting out exciting products, but he’s the reason they’re so much less affected by things like global shipping crises or RAM prices exploding than many other companies are.
The work done by the hardware dept to build CPUs has been a great achievement though. While this started under Jobs, Apple now arguably makes the best CPUs in the market. Competing with AMD/Intel is no easy feat.
My old turbo jet engine loud intel MacBook that made noise at the smallest amount of work imaginable vs the silent more powerful m series laptop that lasted what felt like forever battery wise in comparison was such a nice upgrade.
With everything I do now though my M1 and its 16gb of ram is becoming a little limiting so im going to have to do something about that eventually.
Edit: and its less obvious to others, but them making their own modems now is also a pretty big thing.
Then keep him in the c suite running the logistics, not spearhead a giant company and run their reputation in the ground. This is what you get when you don’t keep the creatives in the c suite.
I suspect that the thinking when he was appointed was that logistics was going to be key to Apple’s future success. And at the time, they also had a number of high profile creative people in other roles, though they have pretty much all moved on since. And if you look at their financial performance in the years since Cook took over—which is the board actually cares about—it’s hard to say that this was a bad approach.
It has? They can’t keep the MacBook Neo in stock. iPhones haven’t been the market innovator for a long time but they do what they do and they do it well. I don’t see lots of complaints about iPhone crashing all the time; the biggest issues are battery life of aging devices and repairability.
Their M-Series SoCs are also popular enough that they’re the face of AI outside of GPUs and datacentres, and they were pretty big for the whole computing industry, especially given the whole reputation Macbooks had of being slow and prone to heating, and ARM being seen as slow/exclusively for mobile. Apple wasn’t the first to make a ARM computer, but from memory, a lot of them were relegated to either Chromebooks or Single-board computers. You’d be silly to put an ARM-based CPU in your laptop, if you were planning to do any serious work.
The whole agentic AI trend of late basically has people flocking to go for an M-Series Mac, for them even when the setup is mostly routed through an external provider, and could run with minute resources.
It’s equally as weird to think that your Macbook runs on an iPad/iPhone chip, but there we are. If you went back 10 - 20 years, and told people that Apple were making Macbooks run on old iPhone chips, they’d think you were joking.
His biggest failures, as I’ve heard it, revolve around the fact that he only cares about making short-term profits and doesn’t understand human beings. Steve Jobs did a lot of telling him to go fuck himself back in the day, to the great benefit of kot only the company, but to the customers. Why he was put in as the next guy to lead the company is beyond me.
I don’t think it’s short-term profits exactly, as much as he’s just focused on making a profit, to the exclusion of all else. Logistics work doesn’t tend to pay off short-term, and that is a lot of what his tenure focused on, with Apple basically bringing everything back in-house.
Lol I’m a former diehard Apple hater that’s been using an iPhone for 4 years and loves Apple Silicon Macs.
But I still do think they’ve done a lot of idiotic things lately. iOS 26 works fine on my phone (some people are reporting performance issues), but the UI is hit and miss.
Apple Vision Pro seemed doomed from the get go, but they really made it worse by not launching a cheaper headset with Air branding half a year or a year in to actually drive market share enough to make it worthwhile for developers. Could’ve given it an A series CPU since we now know it works in a laptop so why not in XR or whatever they’re calling this.
Apple Vision Pro seemed doomed from the get go, but they really made it worse by not launching a cheaper headset with Air branding half a year or a year in to actually drive market share enough to make it worthwhile for developers. Could’ve given it an A series CPU since we now know it works in a laptop so why not in XR or whatever they’re calling this.
I think that they shot themselves in the foot by trying to make it a computer that goes on your face, and have it do as much as possible.
The interface is weird, and comes with a bunch of features that don’t seem very useful. The eye thing is simply odd, and the keyboard seems like it would run into the same problems that those laser keyboards that were all the rage back in the day had, where it’s awful to type on, since you get no feedback, and are just whacking your hand against a solid surface.
If they had stripped it all the way down into basically being a wearable monitor you can plug into your devices, with workspaces you can expand or move around as you like, in lieu of having a bunch of monitors, it would have been more of a sell.
As it is, it comes across as a proof-of-concept that’s stuffed to the gills with gimmicks to try and make it fit a niche, which in turn makes it seem a toy more so than anything else.
Every decision made about the vision pro was idiotic. They didn’t even have a developer kit so you had to buy the full price to device and you didn’t even get developer options for your trouble so no one developed for it. It wasn’t available outside of North America, it didn’t have a controller so interactions were clunky, it didn’t support gaming which is basically what a VR headset is for, it would only interact with an MacBook making the effective price even higher, it was uncomfortable, the battery was a randomly a separate part to absolutely zero customer benefit as it wasn’t hot swappable, after the big swanky launch event Apple proceeded to completely forget about it and didn’t release any updates, and as you say they never made an affordable version.
Literally every other VR headset was a superior option, and apples attempt to rebrand the product as “spatial computing” just confused everyone.
The skeumorphic days of the early 2000s were nice, and gave things a bit of character. The current trend of having everything be flat colours is fine, but does lose a little bit of that whimsy.
Admittedly, part of it might also just be that the grass is greener. We could easily be saying the same thing in reverse if we were still on the gel look of the time.
Apple Vision Pro seemed doomed from the get go, but they really made it worse by not launching a cheaper headset with Air branding half a year or a year in to actually drive market share enough to make it worthwhile for developers. Could’ve given it an A series CPU since we now know it works in a laptop so why not in XR or whatever they’re calling this.
I think Vision Pro was doomed regardless. Go back and watch the iPhone announcement, then the Vision Pro announcement. Every single person in the auditorium when Jobs is presenting the iPhone is thinking of the thousand things they can do with that device. In the Vision Pro announcement, there’s none of that energy. If they released something that left zero question as to its purpose, the price could sit at $3K and they wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough. Instead we got an Oculus that won’t support most games and costs 6 times as much.
The vision pro utterly baffles me. When they were making the product did no one ever raise the question of what exactly the product they were making was for, because every single reviewer said exactly the same thing, which was that it was an incredibly advanced product, with zero utility.
Don’t get me wrong, they have some great things about it. Garage Band, for instance. It’s just not forward thinking, not quality or design oriented anymore, and tries to keep you on their cloud pretty strongly. At least that’s how it was around 2017.
Remember iTunes, if I had gone out with the intention of making an inferior product I don’t think I would have succeeded. I cannot believe that they were prepared to slap their name onto that utterly garbage piece of software and then proceed to never fix it.
It’s still bewildering that that’s the only way you can link with a device. It’s a bewildering oversight.
If you stuff your phone with photos, you can’t delete them by connecting them to a computer and sorting through them on that. You have to use a utility to import them either straight onto the computer, or delete them separately on the phone.
Especially with the focus on trying to make the iPad a computer. You’re still largely relegated to the iTunes-type interface, unless you sidestep it with a cloud service, or Airdrop.
The software is like one of those brides where they bind the feet so they can never become independent. And then services revenue is a goitre on this creatures neck constantly throwing it off balance as it tries to shamble forward.
I very much want ~2010 apple, where the hardware was maybe a bit meh, but the software was top tier.
The hardware is premium. That doesn’t mean it’s good. It’s impossible to work on or upgrade, for example. The parts are all high quality and the design is usually solid (except for a handful of things like systems known to overheat and “you’re holding it wrong” antennas), but for how much it costs I don’t want to have to buy a whole new one when I want to upgrade or have a hardware problem, no matter how much Apple would want me to.
People say the hardware is top-notch but every single person I know who has an iPhone has a cracked iPhone.
Meanwhile here I am with a supposedly very delicate folding phone and no case, and it’s absolutely fine. I’m not careful with it either I’ve dropped it loads of times. I have no idea why Apple insist on making their screens out of sugar glass.
Google Cast and Miracast, RCS messaging, probably some find support depending on what you want, and I see a bunch of apps claiming to integrate with the Apple Watch but I have no way to validate them. My Fitbit integrates just fine.
I’m not optimistic on this one, since one of the features of huge corporations is that the institutional shareholders that own them appoint the person they think will deliver the best YoY growth and Earnings Per Share. For a company that’s mostly saturated its market, this means enshittification and thumbscrew-tightening on its existing customers.
He may not have the product vision or salesmanship of Jobs, but he’s a logistics genius and was a MAJOR part of saving Apple when he came on. I’m reading the book “Apple in China”, and he was very responsible for Apple’s incredible supply chain and the fact that Apple, itself, holds relatively little inventory with the exception of its stores.
The company has grown exponentially under Cook. The problem is that there hasn’t really been an awe inspiring new product developed fully under him.
I seriously could do a better job than him. I have so many friends and family that used to be diehard apple fans to the point of nausea, that now think of it as a meh kind of company.
Cook’s expertise was in the logistics. He’s definitely not been a great leader for them putting out exciting products, but he’s the reason they’re so much less affected by things like global shipping crises or RAM prices exploding than many other companies are.
The work done by the hardware dept to build CPUs has been a great achievement though. While this started under Jobs, Apple now arguably makes the best CPUs in the market. Competing with AMD/Intel is no easy feat.
My old turbo jet engine loud intel MacBook that made noise at the smallest amount of work imaginable vs the silent more powerful m series laptop that lasted what felt like forever battery wise in comparison was such a nice upgrade.
With everything I do now though my M1 and its 16gb of ram is becoming a little limiting so im going to have to do something about that eventually.
Edit: and its less obvious to others, but them making their own modems now is also a pretty big thing.
Then keep him in the c suite running the logistics, not spearhead a giant company and run their reputation in the ground. This is what you get when you don’t keep the creatives in the c suite.
Apple has done amazing under Cook and its reputation has certainly not been run into the ground.
I suspect that the thinking when he was appointed was that logistics was going to be key to Apple’s future success. And at the time, they also had a number of high profile creative people in other roles, though they have pretty much all moved on since. And if you look at their financial performance in the years since Cook took over—which is the board actually cares about—it’s hard to say that this was a bad approach.
In the short term, yes. You can ride a reputation for years. Now the shit has hit the fan.
It has? They can’t keep the MacBook Neo in stock. iPhones haven’t been the market innovator for a long time but they do what they do and they do it well. I don’t see lots of complaints about iPhone crashing all the time; the biggest issues are battery life of aging devices and repairability.
Seems like Apple is doing just fine.
Their M-Series SoCs are also popular enough that they’re the face of AI outside of GPUs and datacentres, and they were pretty big for the whole computing industry, especially given the whole reputation Macbooks had of being slow and prone to heating, and ARM being seen as slow/exclusively for mobile. Apple wasn’t the first to make a ARM computer, but from memory, a lot of them were relegated to either Chromebooks or Single-board computers. You’d be silly to put an ARM-based CPU in your laptop, if you were planning to do any serious work.
The whole agentic AI trend of late basically has people flocking to go for an M-Series Mac, for them even when the setup is mostly routed through an external provider, and could run with minute resources.
It’s equally as weird to think that your Macbook runs on an iPad/iPhone chip, but there we are. If you went back 10 - 20 years, and told people that Apple were making Macbooks run on old iPhone chips, they’d think you were joking.
But their fans keep eating the shit so it doesn’t matter.
His biggest failures, as I’ve heard it, revolve around the fact that he only cares about making short-term profits and doesn’t understand human beings. Steve Jobs did a lot of telling him to go fuck himself back in the day, to the great benefit of kot only the company, but to the customers. Why he was put in as the next guy to lead the company is beyond me.
I don’t think it’s short-term profits exactly, as much as he’s just focused on making a profit, to the exclusion of all else. Logistics work doesn’t tend to pay off short-term, and that is a lot of what his tenure focused on, with Apple basically bringing everything back in-house.
RAM prices exploding only means Apple takes a tiny hit to their profit margin per device, considering how inflated they were in the first place.
Lol I’m a former diehard Apple hater that’s been using an iPhone for 4 years and loves Apple Silicon Macs.
But I still do think they’ve done a lot of idiotic things lately. iOS 26 works fine on my phone (some people are reporting performance issues), but the UI is hit and miss.
Apple Vision Pro seemed doomed from the get go, but they really made it worse by not launching a cheaper headset with Air branding half a year or a year in to actually drive market share enough to make it worthwhile for developers. Could’ve given it an A series CPU since we now know it works in a laptop so why not in XR or whatever they’re calling this.
I think that they shot themselves in the foot by trying to make it a computer that goes on your face, and have it do as much as possible.
The interface is weird, and comes with a bunch of features that don’t seem very useful. The eye thing is simply odd, and the keyboard seems like it would run into the same problems that those laser keyboards that were all the rage back in the day had, where it’s awful to type on, since you get no feedback, and are just whacking your hand against a solid surface.
If they had stripped it all the way down into basically being a wearable monitor you can plug into your devices, with workspaces you can expand or move around as you like, in lieu of having a bunch of monitors, it would have been more of a sell.
As it is, it comes across as a proof-of-concept that’s stuffed to the gills with gimmicks to try and make it fit a niche, which in turn makes it seem a toy more so than anything else.
Every decision made about the vision pro was idiotic. They didn’t even have a developer kit so you had to buy the full price to device and you didn’t even get developer options for your trouble so no one developed for it. It wasn’t available outside of North America, it didn’t have a controller so interactions were clunky, it didn’t support gaming which is basically what a VR headset is for, it would only interact with an MacBook making the effective price even higher, it was uncomfortable, the battery was a randomly a separate part to absolutely zero customer benefit as it wasn’t hot swappable, after the big swanky launch event Apple proceeded to completely forget about it and didn’t release any updates, and as you say they never made an affordable version.
Literally every other VR headset was a superior option, and apples attempt to rebrand the product as “spatial computing” just confused everyone.
Does anyone even like it? I haven’t seen anyone online or offline that actually even remotely likes it.
Edit: Nevermind, found the first guy further down the thread
It’s…fine. I miss the direct skeuomorphic design language of the older iOS.
Ever since about the time of Windows 8 I felt like all computers were just designed for other computers.
The skeumorphic days of the early 2000s were nice, and gave things a bit of character. The current trend of having everything be flat colours is fine, but does lose a little bit of that whimsy.
Admittedly, part of it might also just be that the grass is greener. We could easily be saying the same thing in reverse if we were still on the gel look of the time.
Not a fan of the bubble bobble theme
I think Vision Pro was doomed regardless. Go back and watch the iPhone announcement, then the Vision Pro announcement. Every single person in the auditorium when Jobs is presenting the iPhone is thinking of the thousand things they can do with that device. In the Vision Pro announcement, there’s none of that energy. If they released something that left zero question as to its purpose, the price could sit at $3K and they wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough. Instead we got an Oculus that won’t support most games and costs 6 times as much.
The vision pro utterly baffles me. When they were making the product did no one ever raise the question of what exactly the product they were making was for, because every single reviewer said exactly the same thing, which was that it was an incredibly advanced product, with zero utility.
Don’t get me wrong, they have some great things about it. Garage Band, for instance. It’s just not forward thinking, not quality or design oriented anymore, and tries to keep you on their cloud pretty strongly. At least that’s how it was around 2017.
Remember iTunes, if I had gone out with the intention of making an inferior product I don’t think I would have succeeded. I cannot believe that they were prepared to slap their name onto that utterly garbage piece of software and then proceed to never fix it.
It’s still bewildering that that’s the only way you can link with a device. It’s a bewildering oversight.
If you stuff your phone with photos, you can’t delete them by connecting them to a computer and sorting through them on that. You have to use a utility to import them either straight onto the computer, or delete them separately on the phone.
Especially with the focus on trying to make the iPad a computer. You’re still largely relegated to the iTunes-type interface, unless you sidestep it with a cloud service, or Airdrop.
Yeah.
The hardware is fantastic.
The software is like one of those brides where they bind the feet so they can never become independent. And then services revenue is a goitre on this creatures neck constantly throwing it off balance as it tries to shamble forward.
I very much want ~2010 apple, where the hardware was maybe a bit meh, but the software was top tier.
The hardware is premium. That doesn’t mean it’s good. It’s impossible to work on or upgrade, for example. The parts are all high quality and the design is usually solid (except for a handful of things like systems known to overheat and “you’re holding it wrong” antennas), but for how much it costs I don’t want to have to buy a whole new one when I want to upgrade or have a hardware problem, no matter how much Apple would want me to.
People say the hardware is top-notch but every single person I know who has an iPhone has a cracked iPhone.
Meanwhile here I am with a supposedly very delicate folding phone and no case, and it’s absolutely fine. I’m not careful with it either I’ve dropped it loads of times. I have no idea why Apple insist on making their screens out of sugar glass.
Help them switch to GrapheneOS!
Does it have Airplay? iMessage? Find My? Intervention with the Apple Watch? No? I’ll pass for now.
Google Cast and Miracast, RCS messaging, probably some find support depending on what you want, and I see a bunch of apps claiming to integrate with the Apple Watch but I have no way to validate them. My Fitbit integrates just fine.
I’m not optimistic on this one, since one of the features of huge corporations is that the institutional shareholders that own them appoint the person they think will deliver the best YoY growth and Earnings Per Share. For a company that’s mostly saturated its market, this means enshittification and thumbscrew-tightening on its existing customers.
He may not have the product vision or salesmanship of Jobs, but he’s a logistics genius and was a MAJOR part of saving Apple when he came on. I’m reading the book “Apple in China”, and he was very responsible for Apple’s incredible supply chain and the fact that Apple, itself, holds relatively little inventory with the exception of its stores.
The company has grown exponentially under Cook. The problem is that there hasn’t really been an awe inspiring new product developed fully under him.
And he sucked up to a fascist (screenshot at 4 minutes in article video):
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/07/tim-cook-gift-to-trump/
the next one will do the same
It’s the biggest company in the world. (Well, unless GPUs are here to stay).
He’s done pretty good.