Not really normalise, but definitely decriminalise.
Drug addiction should be treated as an illness, not a moral failure.
EDIT: I conflated addiction with recreational use by mistake. I guess it’s time to re-learn the Rat Park lesson.
Recreational drug use and addiction are very different things. I agree that addiction should be treated seriously.
But what you said sounds like saying we shouldnt normalize pedophilia when someone says we should normalize christianity.
Recreational drug use has been normal since way before humans existed. Its just that every culture has its own set of drugs that they consider normal and the Murican war on drugs did a very good job in globally demonizing all drugs not considered normal in their own culture.
I’m gonna hate myself for writing this but you can’t compare pedophilia and christianity.
One is a very dangerous thing that has destroyed countless lives and the other is an awfully unfortunate part of human psychology that harms everyone involved with it.
Christianity can be stopped though, pedophilia can be lived with at best.
Pedophilia can be stopped but we’re too concerned with the rights of abusers than protection of victims
I’m talking about the psychological aspect of some people who are attracted to minors, not the legal ramifications.
If these people can manage these urges and not abuse minors, that’s living with it and honestly the best possible scenario since it sadly is part of human nature.
The reason I talk about it this way is that people seem to forget that (probably most) pedophiles don’t want to be attracted to children but simply are and villifying them for something they can’t help is unproductive at the very least. They shouldn’t act on them but society should also give them a way to live without hurting themselves and/or others.
Oh yeah. Good point, my mistake.
Found the 3-meo-pcp enjoyer.
Preach brother preach 🙌
Phenibut is legal in my country.
Doesn’t do much for me but you sleep like a goddam rock. Which is nice
I think, like valium, you have to keep yourself awake. Either artificially or somehow through willpower
I wanna be able to go down to the corner store and buy a can of LSD and another can of Ayahuasca.
Same but DMT cart
A keg of both
legalise all drugs. but each drug should have a tax on it that will be adjusted based on the cost of treatment for rehab or other medical complications.
A drug has little spcietal side effects and is non addictive, practically no tax. a drug is highly addictive and bad for you? it’ll be super expensive to cover for the cost of treatment.
thinking about it more clearly, it’s more of a liability insurance than a tax.
imagine a drug that’s basically instadeath, the insurance would have to pay a death insurance like payment, and therefore a dose might cost a hundred thousand USD. making it practically inaccessible.
edit: thinking about it more, it gives me strong libertarian vibes, and I’ve grossed myself out.
This would promote drug deaths among extremely wealthy people. I like it.
Drug use IS normal, throughout all history
Cannabis, opium, alcohol and more were found in our earliest graves.
Much of this could be bought over the counter for decades… the US drug war is founded in RACISM, as the Europeans preferred alcohol.
Opium dens are preferable to the alternative, prison. My opinion
We should normalize PCP use for prisoners drafted into the military.
Ethic? But think of the oil profits…
Had this conversation a while ago with some friends when some rich douchecanoe was trying to start an “enhanced games” where performance enhancers are allowed.
Yes, imho, these should be legalized too. People are gonna use them anyway, just like recreational drugs, and there isn’t a drug on earth that isn’t made safer when it’s users can get pure, known quantities of their substance of choice. It also frees up researches to study the shit that people are absolutely going to put in there bodies anyway. Real science is better than bro science.
to be clear, I’m not saying all sports should now allow performance enhancers, but I think a class for enhanced participants would be hella interesting. Assuming it was backed by legit science and done relatively safely
I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve gone back to being against it. A lot of performance enhancing drugs push your cardiovascular system pretty hard. If everyone is trying to juice as much as possible to win, they’ll end up competing to getting as close to death as possible for our entertainment to achieve the max performance. They’re either killing themselves in the process or shaving decades off their natural lifespans. I don’t know if creating such a system would be ethical.
Are you talking about the WWE?
At that point the deeper research into the substances would be beneficial. As the side effects are proportional to dosing, the damage can be mitigated and with better and actual research into it is helpful in dealing with those side effects.
And as with other drugs, which can be harmful as well and addictive. People are still going to get those, just with worse quality, less certainty that it is the actual substance and needing to rely on bro science to counteract any harmful effects.
I’m going to do enhancemaxxing if this becomes a thing. Let’s see if a bit of T-plagias can really help with muscle growth!
And you should be able to do it in a properly controlled manner and as safely as possible.
Well they already are enhanced, just not busted. With most steroids we already know how long it takes for those to flush out of the system, oddly one of the most studied part and the improvements gotten from enhanced training can be maintained to a degree.
Though i was more on the personal use part. Getting cleaner and actually known substances, as some drugs are rarer but still popular thus those can be laced with other less popular drugs, is going to be better.
Yeah the research part is good as well as currently user experiences and a handful of papers are used to mitigate the negative side effects of steroids which can have flaws and breaks down completely if the affirmationd drug isn’t what it’s supposed to be.Legalization/decriminalization is great, I have nothing against that. I just have a hard time seeing how drug enhanced competitions don’t turn into people dying for our entertainment.
Completely fair and yeah that will most definitely happen
Addiction is a nasty thing honesty, we should make hard people ti start in the first place.
Even marijuana who people swore up and down for a long time it was inocuous is now known to have negative brain health effects, sure you can argue that alcohol and smoking are worse, and you are right, but they’re bad too.
IDK, sure some people may have healthy relationships with this stuff, but meet someone who doesn’t, and ask you how much good does to society access to this stuff.
Maybe but read into the history of prohibition and its pretty clear that ‘making it hard to start’ carries much bigger problems for society than any individual risk of addiction.
Criminalization feeds Black markets, which leads to more organized crime. Also creates stigma which makes addicts less likely to seek out help. If you care about addicts, or society, dont advocate for ‘making it harder’. It’s antithetical to those positions, as it doesn’t help ANYTHING.
It honestly seems like there may be an overall negative correlation between how safe a drug is recreationally and how legal it is to obtain/use it.
yes?
I mean…
yassssssss
